Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:08 pm  

Cuddleclub wrote:

Knee injury a lot worse than initially said, Catalans should have sorted it out last year but they wouldn’t pay for it even though was in the loan agreement with rovers they was responsible for his medical bills. I said we’d struggle to get 10/15 games out of him didn’t expect it to be because he’s not here

This is where the club needs to get a lot smarter, Catalan had the chance to keep him and early performances were promising but decided not to. Rovers of course had already loaned him out. We should have read the signs.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:09 pm  

Cuddleclub wrote:

That’s not true -
3 marquees
1 x overseas 150k anything above doesn’t count
1 x fed trained (eg someone like if you signed him Welsby) 100k
1 x fed trained through your academy 50k

You can definitely have 2 marquee overseas players, we have two for certain.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:10 pm  

Cuddleclub wrote:

That’s not true -
3 marquees
1 x overseas 150k anything above doesn’t count
1 x fed trained (eg someone like if you signed him Welsby) 100k
1 x fed trained through your academy 50k

You can have 2 x overseas marquees, it's the 3rd one that needs to be 'British'

Shows the salary cap rules are now clear as mud and I guarantee the geniuses at the RFL aren't on the ball with it either

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:10 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Lewis would be an unbelievable signing, he has developed alot into more than just an off the cuff player.

I don't think Lewis will ever play for Hull personally.

My thinking is he'll end up in the NRL soon. And Rovers will have first refusal if he comes back here. If he comes to us it'll be towards the end of his career.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:11 pm  

UllFC wrote:

This is where the club needs to get a lot smarter, Catalan had the chance to keep him and early performances were promising but decided not to. Rovers of course had already loaned him out. We should have read the signs.

Agreed, was a poor signing and 3 years was just ludicrous.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:13 pm  

Cuddleclub wrote:

That’s not true -
3 marquees
1 x overseas 150k anything above doesn’t count
1 x fed trained (eg someone like if you signed him Welsby) 100k
1 x fed trained through your academy 50k

The figures are right though, 100k for Sneyd compared ti 50k for Abdul.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:13 pm  

UllFC wrote:

You can have 2 x overseas marquees, it's the 3rd one that needs to be 'British'

Shows the salary cap rules are now clear as mud and I guarantee the geniuses at the RFL aren't on the ball with it either

Either way Sneyd wouldn’t count as 50k player

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:14 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Nothing to do with playing for the academy, any non fed player can be a marquee and only 50k count on the cap.

So this would be Sneyd

There is a specific dispensation for one academy player though isn’t there?

Either way we might have wealthy owners but the money McNichol has ploughed into Rovers for seemingly no financial return is huge in RL terms like it or not they’ll be able to match or better any Hull offer. There’s absolutely no way Lewis joins Hull when he’s contracted until 2028. That is one move that’s certainly won’t happen regardless of marquee status. Even in an NRL scenario Rovers will have stipulations ensuring he rejoins them if they did let him go early.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:17 pm  

Cuddleclub wrote:

That’s not true -
3 marquees
1 x overseas 150k anything above doesn’t count
1 x fed trained (eg someone like if you signed him Welsby) 100k
1 x fed trained through your academy 50k

I thought you were allowed 2 marquees? ie Rapana and Asiata.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:17 pm  

Cuddleclub wrote: That’s not true - 3 marquees 1 x overseas 150k anything above doesn’t count 1 x fed trained (eg someone like if you signed him Welsby) 100k 1 x fed trained through your academy 50k Posted the link for this on an earlier post but just for clarification: https://www.rugby-league.com/article/61799/changes-to-salary-cap-regulations-for-2024 Clubs will now be permitted up to three Marquee Players (up from two), but only if at least one of them is Federation Trained. Whereas previously all Marquee Players were counted as £150,000 on a club’s salary cap, with the exception of Club-Trained players who counted as £75,000, now Club-Trained Marquee Players will count as £50,000; Federation-Trained Marquee Players will count as £100,000; and Non-Federation Trained Marquee Players will remain valued at £150,000 in salary cap calculations. This was last years update. Has anything changed for the 2025 season?

Cuddleclub wrote: That’s not true - 3 marquees 1 x overseas 150k anything above doesn’t count 1 x fed trained (eg someone like if you signed him Welsby) 100k 1 x fed trained through your academy 50k Posted the link for this on an earlier post but just for clarification: https://www.rugby-league.com/article/61799/changes-to-salary-cap-regulations-for-2024 Clubs will now be permitted up to three Marquee Players (up from two), but only if at least one of them is Federation Trained. Whereas previously all Marquee Players were counted as £150,000 on a club’s salary cap, with the exception of Club-Trained players who counted as £75,000, now Club-Trained Marquee Players will count as £50,000; Federation-Trained Marquee Players will count as £100,000; and Non-Federation Trained Marquee Players will remain valued at £150,000 in salary cap calculations. This was last years update. Has anything changed for the 2025 season?