FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Royce Gone !!
::[url=//saints.org.uk](Website)[/url]
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7498
JoinedServiceReputation
May 11 200519 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
16th Nov 23 22:068th Feb 18 21:50LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Back in the badlands of the metropolitan borough of Wigoon

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:30 pm  
SaintsFan wrote:
Ridiculous knee jerk reaction by Saints. My club is depressing me at present.

Interesting that Purtill has gone as well. I'm surprised the chairman didn't fire a raft of other staff too while he felt in the mood.

Saints appear to be a bit of an old boys club.



It's not the fact we've lost so much it's manner in which we have. for me it's correct decision and Purtill had to go too imo as he has been part of the Mick Plodder and Simmons era.

Tough call though for the chairman
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach604No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 13 200520 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
16th May 16 04:5616th May 16 04:53LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
The new Saints statue looks like Andy Farrell!!

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:33 pm  
SaintsFan wrote:
Ridiculous knee jerk reaction by Saints. My club is depressing me at present.

Interesting that Purtill has gone as well. I'm surprised the chairman didn't fire a raft of other staff too while he felt in the mood.

Saints appear to be a bit of an old boys club.


Only just noticed? :IDEA:
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star393
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 30 201114 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Oct 17 09:0210th Apr 17 10:32LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Warrington
Signature
Never Write Off The Saints

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:40 pm  
SaintsFan wrote:
Ridiculous knee jerk reaction by Saints. My club is depressing me at present.

Interesting that Purtill has gone as well. I'm surprised the chairman didn't fire a raft of other staff too while he felt in the mood.

Saints appear to be a bit of an old boys club.


Whilst it is a sad day when a club with as much prestige as Saints is firing their coach 7 games into the season, it was however needed as every team we have played this season have been able to predict how we will attack and our playmakers have been closed down quickly. Our plays were slow and no back up plans to the game plan Royce employs.

I wish Royce every success in his future endeavours and thank him for the further development of our potential young stars of the future.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member29212No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 10 200321 years107th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
17th Sep 24 11:4512th Sep 24 14:08LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Warrington

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:45 pm  
Good to see Eamon making this decision. I've been very critical of the club on here and was one of the many who called for this action to be taken.

It shows they are conscious of the importance of the club challenging for trophies and how much it will impact the club commercially if we are not. The next choice of coach is a massive decision and they need to get it right.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5463No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 05 200915 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Jan 16 11:524th Oct 14 11:37LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
Signature
Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.

Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds

Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0


I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubblegum.

Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight!

Esse quam videri.

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:47 pm  
Getting rid of Royce is one thing, but to then employ a vastly inexperienced coaching team to take over from him, and expect them to guide the Saints club through it's most difficult period in quite some time, is laughable.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member29212No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 10 200321 years107th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
17th Sep 24 11:4512th Sep 24 14:08LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Warrington

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:51 pm  
SaintsFan wrote:
Ridiculous knee jerk reaction by Saints. My club is depressing me at present.

Interesting that Purtill has gone as well. I'm surprised the chairman didn't fire a raft of other staff too while he felt in the mood.

Saints appear to be a bit of an old boys club.


Why is it a ridiculous knee jerk? It's obviously not working and what benefit would seeing the season out have had?

You don't know what was going on behind the scenes. People who do on here have spoken in recent weeks about the players and the coach not agreeing on how things are done tactically. In that situation it's up to the coach to get everyone on board and playing his way. He clearly failed to do that. I thought the scenes on Sky from the Bradford game were telling. Saints went out onto the field early after a talk by Purtill, leaving Royce walking round in a circle in the changing rooms. Purtill was also apparently taking the team talks because of issues with Simmons and the players. It doesn't take much to read into it that he didn't have everyone's support within the club. In those kind of situations, it is always the coach that loses out, it's happened before and it'll happen again.

Had we kept Royce we WOULD have lost the next 3 games at least. Being in the bottom 2 or 3 after 10 games would not have been acceptable for Saints.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member29212No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 10 200321 years107th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
17th Sep 24 11:4512th Sep 24 14:08LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Warrington

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:53 pm  
LovesToSpooge wrote:
Getting rid of Royce is one thing, but to then employ a vastly inexperienced coaching team to take over from him, and expect them to guide the Saints club through it's most difficult period in quite some time, is laughable.


Depends on how you look at it. We would have lost the next 3 games under Simmons. So sacking them now gives at least a possibility that there will be a positive reaction from the players and an up turn in form. If not, we can just blame it on Simmons and the mess he's created.
Dux 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4411
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 13 200322 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
1st Feb 24 10:3111th Apr 18 12:42LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Liverpool

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:59 pm  
I'm surprised that Eammon has made this decision; as I've posted elsewhere, I expected to see Royce see out his contract or go voluntarily if the situation got any worse.

If the chairman is prepared to take the financial hit of paying off two high profile staff members, then I think it's the right move. It's sad for Royce who I think has given his best, but I think a good clean sweep will help put the club on a positive footing again.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5463No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 05 200915 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Jan 16 11:524th Oct 14 11:37LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
Signature
Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.

Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds

Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0


I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubblegum.

Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight!

Esse quam videri.

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:01 pm  
Saddened! wrote:
Depends on how you look at it. We would have lost the next 3 games under Simmons. So sacking them now gives at least a possibility that there will be a positive reaction from the players and an up turn in form.


They'll be a positive reaction I'm sure, whether it'll be enough to get the win remains to be seen. It's when euphoria about the new coaching team dies down, and your perhaps still not performing to Saints " standards", then we'll see what this coaching team has about them. It's times like these that experienced heads are needed, any Wigan fan will tell you that.

Saddened! wrote:
If not, we can just blame it on Simmons and the mess he's created.


That's the spirit. I'm sure by thinking like that you'll challenging for honors in no time. :thumb:
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star3839
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 17 201113 years227th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Sep 24 21:3717th Sep 24 12:56LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:03 pm  
SaintsFan wrote:
Ridiculous knee jerk reaction by Saints. My club is depressing me at present.

Interesting that Purtill has gone as well. I'm surprised the chairman didn't fire a raft of other staff too while he felt in the mood.

Saints appear to be a bit of an old boys club.


As usual, you are talking utter garbage.

How can you describe it as being ridiculous and knee-jerk when we are playing some of the worst rugby in the 20 years I've been watching Saints?
His tactical knowledge/awareness is shocking and our team looks absolutely clueless.
Only an idiot would fail to see that a change simply had to happen and unfortunately he is just not up to the job.

And if we were the "old boys club" that you claim we are, a certain Mr.Long wouldn't be running up and down the Salford touchline nowadays.

Your post is as clueless as Royce's team selections.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 87 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to St. Helens


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Todays match v Saints
WireWireWire
89
5m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
rollin thund
10016
8m
Leigh it is
apollosghost
8
13m
Must do better
Or thane
11
39m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Phuzzy
2939
Recent
Player of the Year is
boardwalkemp
20
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62518
Recent
Wakefield v Dons - Sunday 29 September 2024
Wanderer
2
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40142
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
3955
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
38s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Phuzzy
2939
42s
Shopping list for 2025
Yippee try y
5257
45s
Play Off Question
DannyT
20
48s
Not going to lie
Captain Hook
36
56s
Player of the Year is
boardwalkemp
20
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
Jake the Peg
2868
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40142
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62518
2m
Season 2024
ArthurClues
56
3m
SL Dream Team 2024
RAPIDO
11
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Wakefield v Dons - Sunday 29 September 2024
Wanderer
2
TODAY
The play-offs
Bully_Boxer
1
TODAY
This years play off series
just_browny
2
TODAY
Leigh it is
apollosghost
8
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Play Off SF
FoxyRhino
1
TODAY
Must do better
Or thane
11
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Break Saints Hearts With Golden Point Win
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Todays match v Saints
WireWireWire
89
TODAY
We are in good hands
God
6
TODAY
Josh Charnley
Vancouver Le
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off Progress In Eliminating Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
superleague plus
karetaker
4
TODAY
New Owners
orangeman
1
TODAY
Josh Rourke
PopTart
14
TODAY
2025 Membership prices
WYSIWYG2
2
TODAY
Doncaster home
Butcher
14
TODAY
Mike Cooper
morleys_deck
7
TODAY
Cooper Retiring with Immediate Effect
Moe syslak
11
TODAY
Matt Moylan
leyther
8
TODAY
Swinton A
Highlander
12
TODAY
Play Off Question
DannyT
20
TODAY
Whitehaven Away
faxcar
3
TODAY
Squad for Saints
just_browny
24
TODAY
Stewart Piper
Tatty Feeld
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
200
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
317
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
876
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
945
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
922
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1283
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1049
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1236
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1398
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1598
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1387
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1515
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1684
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1502
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1964
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Fri 4th Oct
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Warrington
Sat 5th Oct
SL
17:30
Wigan-Leigh
Sun 6th Oct
WSL2024
16:30
York V-St.HelensW
NRL
09:30
Melbourne-Penrith
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 28th Sep
CH 28 Toulouse64-16Batley
SL 28 Warrington23-22St.Helens
NRL 30 Penrith26-6Cronulla
Fri 27th Sep
SL 28 Salford6-14Leigh
NRL 30 Melbourne48-18Sydney
Sun 22nd Sep
CH 27 Batley28-14Swinton
CH 27 Halifax14-10Bradford
CH 27 Swinton20-22Doncaster
L1 24 Hunslet18-14Midlands
L1 24 Keighley26-22Rochdale
WSL2024 15 LeedsW10-12York V
WSL2024 15 St.HelensW18-4WiganW
Sat 21st Sep
SL 27 Hull FC4-24Catalans
CH 27 Featherstone50-12Dewsbury
CH 27 Widnes12-18Toulouse
CH27 Wakefield46-0Barrow
NRL 29 Sydney40-16Manly
Fri 20th Sep
SL 27 Hull KR26-16Leeds
SL 27 Leigh18-12St.Helens
SL 27 Warrington54-0LondonB
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 27 721 336 385 44
Warrington 28 761 341 420 42
Hull KR 27 719 327 392 42
Leigh 28 580 404 176 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 25 938 256 682 48
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
Bradford 25 628 387 241 32
York 26 639 463 176 28
Featherstone 25 616 484 132 28
Sheffield 25 618 498 120 28
 
Widnes 25 525 451 74 27
Doncaster 25 492 547 -55 25
Halifax 25 489 627 -138 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 24 418 694 -276 19
Swinton 26 474 620 -146 18
Whitehaven 24 414 806 -392 16
Dewsbury 26 320 871 -551 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Todays match v Saints
WireWireWire
89
5m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
rollin thund
10016
8m
Leigh it is
apollosghost
8
13m
Must do better
Or thane
11
39m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Phuzzy
2939
Recent
Player of the Year is
boardwalkemp
20
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62518
Recent
Wakefield v Dons - Sunday 29 September 2024
Wanderer
2
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40142
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
3955
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
38s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Phuzzy
2939
42s
Shopping list for 2025
Yippee try y
5257
45s
Play Off Question
DannyT
20
48s
Not going to lie
Captain Hook
36
56s
Player of the Year is
boardwalkemp
20
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
Jake the Peg
2868
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40142
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62518
2m
Season 2024
ArthurClues
56
3m
SL Dream Team 2024
RAPIDO
11
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Wakefield v Dons - Sunday 29 September 2024
Wanderer
2
TODAY
The play-offs
Bully_Boxer
1
TODAY
This years play off series
just_browny
2
TODAY
Leigh it is
apollosghost
8
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Play Off SF
FoxyRhino
1
TODAY
Must do better
Or thane
11
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Break Saints Hearts With Golden Point Win
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Todays match v Saints
WireWireWire
89
TODAY
We are in good hands
God
6
TODAY
Josh Charnley
Vancouver Le
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off Progress In Eliminating Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
superleague plus
karetaker
4
TODAY
New Owners
orangeman
1
TODAY
Josh Rourke
PopTart
14
TODAY
2025 Membership prices
WYSIWYG2
2
TODAY
Doncaster home
Butcher
14
TODAY
Mike Cooper
morleys_deck
7
TODAY
Cooper Retiring with Immediate Effect
Moe syslak
11
TODAY
Matt Moylan
leyther
8
TODAY
Swinton A
Highlander
12
TODAY
Play Off Question
DannyT
20
TODAY
Whitehaven Away
faxcar
3
TODAY
Squad for Saints
just_browny
24
TODAY
Stewart Piper
Tatty Feeld
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
200
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
317
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
876
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
945
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
922
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1283
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1049
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1236
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1398
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1598
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1387
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1515
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1684
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1502
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1964


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!