Re: Cas All time Underachievers XIII : Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:45 am  

who needs flankers? wrote:

1. Flowers (always seemed to have more than he delivered)/Gibson

Jason Flowers is one of the best full backs we've had in the last 15 years! Always pretty solid.

A better candidate would be Tommy Saxton imo

Re: Cas All time Underachievers XIII : Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:36 pm  

Weeble wrote:

1. Richard Wright
2. Richard Wright
3. Richard Wright
4. Richard Wright
5. Richard Wright
6. Richard Wright
7. Richard Wright
8. Richard Wright
9. Richard Wright
10. Richard Wright
11. Richard Wright
12. Richard Wright
13. Richard Wright

Obvious choice from an outsiders point of view! IMO it's time for you to come together and get some answers, before it's too late. Robbo/Gloria is urging that too on the other site.
To lose either Cas/Wakefield from SL is a massive gain for those pushing the "M" word.

IMO we both need to be pushing the importance of having 2 teams in the competition in BOTH of our applications. Mutual support rather than back biting and sniping.

Re: Cas All time Underachievers XIII : Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:24 pm  

korkidas, biggest nice person ever to wear the shirt

look out theres a grass about,..................................... oooooh big al, ambers getting on at me again, please ban him

[tb]

Re: Cas All time Underachievers XIII : Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:34 am  

You carry on derailing every thread with this crap and I'll step in and ban you.

Re: Cas All time Underachievers XIII : Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:38 am  

Peter Coyne
Shane Horo
Paul Newlove
Paul Franze
Sean Ryan

Re: Cas All time Underachievers XIII : Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:32 pm  

Gazemous wrote:

Jason Flowers is one of the best full backs we've had in the last 15 years! Always pretty solid.

A better candidate would be Tommy Saxton imo

i grew up playing against jason flowers and occasionally with him at representative level,imo jason never gave less than 100% on a rugby field and what he lacked in skill he more than made up for in effort and a first class attitude to whatever he was asked to do.at our age group their were far better players than jason who didnt have the same commitment has him and thats why he made it and the rest didnt to call him an underachiever couldnt be further off the mark.

its also fair to say that he is also making into a good coach,again our paths have crossed and we coach at the same club and his experiance is proving valuble and this is also been seen has i think he his working with cas u15s,cas panthers first team as well has the u13s side has always his attitude and commitment is first class.

Re: Cas All time Underachievers XIII : Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:47 pm  

braytontiger wrote:

jason never gave less than 100% on a rugby field and what he lacked in pace he more than made up for in skill and a first class attitude to whatever he was asked to do.at our age group their were far better players than jason who didnt have the same commitment has him and thats why he made it and the rest didnt to call him an underachiever would show the original poster's ignorance of the game.

its also fair to say that he is also making into a good coach,.... he his working with cas u15s,cas panthers first team as well has the u13s side has always his attitude and commitment is first class apart from jumping ship with 8 of the team from the the previous junior club.

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Re: Cas All time Underachievers XIII : Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:48 pm  

Lord Bruce Burton wrote:

:SHOOT:
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Is that so? So what happened to the Flowers who was "tipped to play for England (or GB as it was then)" remind me how many caps he got....... So is he an underachiever? Well yes. Never doubted his commitment and he had a fantastic attitude but never made the heights he should have so therefore under the dictionary definition of underachiever he is an underachiever.
If I had put someone like Rogers on the list, I would have accepted your criticism as he played to his full ability and beyond!

Re: Cas All time Underachievers XIII : Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:20 pm  

who needs flankers? wrote:

Is that so? So what happened to the Flowers who was "tipped to play for England (or GB as it was then)" remind me how many caps he got....... So is he an underachiever? Well yes. Never doubted his commitment and he had a fantastic attitude but never made the heights he should have so therefore under the dictionary definition of underachiever he is an underachiever.
If I had put someone like Rogers on the list, I would have accepted your criticism as he played to his full ability and beyond!

He got 3 international caps actually

He would have played for GB had not steadman, connolly, spruce, robinson, atcheson, gay, gary broadbent, radlinski, reardon and wellens all been active at full back during his career. All apart from Atcheson they were better players.

I don't really need to be told dictionary definitions as I have spoken english for many years and have become fluent. it is my opinion you are wrong and yours that you are right in spite of the evidence.

Re: Cas All time Underachievers XIII : Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:58 am  

Lord Bruce Burton wrote:

He got 3 international caps actually

He would have played for GB had not steadman, connolly, spruce, robinson, atcheson, gay, gary broadbent, radlinski, reardon and wellens all been active at full back during his career. All apart from Atcheson they were better players.

I don't really need to be told dictionary definitions as I have spoken english for many years and have become fluent. it is my opinion you are wrong and yours that you are right in spite of the evidence.

He got 3 SCOTTISH caps. Wow! Big deal, my friend played football for the isle of man team, it doesn't mean he was any good. Why is Danny Brough playing for Scotland and not England? Because he is an underachiever not living up to his potential. Sounds familiar to me. He should have been as good as Wellens was at his peak, and should have been playing for GB before Wellens even started at Saints. If he had lived up to his petnetial, he would have been pushing Radlinski all the way for the GB full back shirt. Steadman and Flowers didn't cross over at international level.

Spruce had peaked and was on his way down by the time flowers was in his 2nd season, robinson was not a rl full back rah rah made him a full back, connolly was a good centre and an awful fullback, gay - now that is scraping the barrel. Broadbent never played for GB, and wasn't as good as Flowers and Atcheson... Yea not a bad full back, but not that great. Flowers at full potential was better.

So in summary the only one who should have been in his way was Radlinski. He was nowhere near, but yet he could have been. I'm glad Alan Tate was past it when he came along or he might not have got a Scotland cap.