Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:32 pm  

Rovers need to evolve to become consistently more competitive next season (assuming SL status is maintained).


Peacock has already been recruited, along with Minns.

If you were the owner who would you change and why?

Behind the scenes:
Strength, fitness conditioning and wrestling coaches all need recruiting/replacing IMO, its an area that has been lacking for at least 2 seasons. And although i'm tempted to say get rid of Poching and hire a new defensive coach i believe that would be too great a change and also if the team improved in the areas i would recruit new coaches in this would improve the defensive frailties of this season.

The next part is much more subjective and will probably (i believe) be the bigger cause of controversy as people inherently don't like it when others don't agree with them.

Playing staff:
OUT:
Puletua (Loan)
Greenwood (Loan)
Burke (Loan)
Larroyer (Loan)
Chisolm (Loan)
Ben Cockayne
Cox

IN:
1 x Fullback. Dixon is good against mid - lower table teams but is massively exposed against better organisation, yet i'd retain him to watch his development.
Lunt (Free) or another experienced Non Quota Hooker
2 x Props (i would ditch Tilse to open up some quota space if paying off his contract wasn't too extortionate)
1 x 2nd row
1x Centre

No names to the "Ins" as i don't know who's is available besides Lunt being at the end of his contract.

How does everyone else see the requirements for evolution?

Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:44 pm  

Pretty much what you said regarding the coaching staff. We need a fullback but that's the least of my worries. Id concentrate on paying Tilse off, getting rid of the players you said, signing up lunt, getting 2 big nasty props and a big nasty line running, tackle busting 2nd rower. A quality centre for minns and co to learn off, unfortunately Salter isn't good enough so he'd be below Minns I reckon in the pecking order. Then if we could get a good full back I wouldn't retain Charlie and replace him with the good full back whilst recruiting a back up half. I do hope Marsh gets some game time soon though. If we do well enough in Middle 8s early on maybe he could get some game time towards the end. All recruitment would be prioritised in the order I put them in.

Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:45 pm  

REDEOD wrote:

Rovers need to evolve to become consistently more competitive next season (assuming SL status is maintained).


Peacock has already been recruited, along with Minns.

If you were the owner who would you change and why?

Behind the scenes:
Strength, fitness conditioning and wrestling coaches all need recruiting/replacing IMO, its an area that has been lacking for at least 2 seasons. And although i'm tempted to say get rid of Poching and hire a new defensive coach i believe that would be too great a change and also if the team improved in the areas i would recruit new coaches in this would improve the defensive frailties of this season.

Not sure on Poaching but he seems to have had little influence so far, needs to be addressed one way or another. Fitness I totally agree on

The next part is much more subjective and will probably (i believe) be the bigger cause of controversy as people inherently don't like it when others don't agree with them.

Playing staff:
OUT:
Puletua (Loan) Not an option to keep
Greenwood (Loan) I'd try keeping him, been impressed as long as a cuple of big lads join him
Burke (Loan) Agree
Larroyer (Loan) Unless he's used differently
Chisolm (Loan) Not seen enough but with TC back then no point keeping
Ben Cockayne If cheap then a good back up player not first choice
Cox Shame but I agree, just not running his weight

IN:
1 x Fullback. Dixon is good against mid - lower table teams but is massively exposed against better organisation, yet i'd retain him to watch his development.
Behind a good defence he'd be brlliant, we need to build that, keep and play

Lunt (Free) or another experienced Non Quota Hooker Priority signing for continuity
2 x Props Agree (i would ditch Tilse to open up some quota space if paying off his contract wasn't too extortionate) Cant see this being and option
1 x 2nd row Must
1x Centre Lower priority

No names to the "Ins" as i don't know who's is available besides Lunt being at the end of his contract.

How does everyone else see the requirements for evolution?

Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:03 pm  

Laroyer is a great wide runner if used that way & Salter is becoming a very good centre, Chisolm is already signed for Canterbury. the loan signings will be off back, Lunt should be signed up now but may get a better offer from a bigger club. Dixon needs keeping at fullback all we need is a couple of big nasty forwards to hold the midfield & give us some grunt going forward.

Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:41 pm  

Kirmond and Clarkson in.

Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:44 pm  

Beverley red wrote:

Laroyer is a great wide runner if used that way & Salter is becoming a very good centre, Chisolm is already signed for Canterbury. the loan signings will be off back, Lunt should be signed up now but may get a better offer from a bigger club. Dixon needs keeping at fullback all we need is a couple of big nasty forwards to hold the midfield & give us some grunt going forward.

Very good post mirroring my thoughts,larroyer should be put back to running out wide which clearly is his strength and he has a good workrate and misses very few tackles and lunt would be an obvious signing,and he appears to be pretty content here.Allgood is the player who we have missed the most,tackles hard works hard as has a nasty streak,and a couple more like him would do the trick for me.Would give charlie another year.

Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:47 pm  

I read a comment on either here or the Rovers fans from a guy in Oz that Chisholm is a more than competent FB.

Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:48 pm  

Yes I've heard the same Dave

Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:08 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Kirmond and Clarkson in.

Kirmond would do, but Clarkson is no better than what we have. It's always the same with players who are squad members of top clubs, they don't look as impressive with an average squad, which we have in comparison to Leeds. Kirmond has shone in a cr@p side.

Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:48 pm  

I think we need to keep Dixon at full back. He needs constant game time there. We need to accept he's going to make mistakes but its (hopefully) for a long term gain. I honestly feel bringing someone else in to play full back as well will hamper his development.

Other topic on this for me here: Salter. Good enough or not. For me he just isn't good enough to be a starting centre for us. He's okay but I feel he's the sort of play we need to be looking to upgrade for next season. Maybe Minns will be the player to replace him. I'm wondering if Peacock will be bringing any other prospects over with him