Re: London Underground Tube Strike on Fri 28th Aug : Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:35 pm  

Burtons Forearm wrote:

I absolutely stand by everything I posted.
It's a public forum. If people post opinions then expect replies. Some of the opinions posted we're by people who were clearly parroting media lines drawn by interested political parties. They are then open to question or ridicule dependent on content. Some of the posts were clearly idiotic and they pressed the submit button so they're open to reply.
If I then point out their idiocy on that topic don't cry about it.
Of all the issues raised you and Dreary get upset about swearing......all the moral and ethical issues and swearing brings you to post...not the loss of human rights not the media control not the use of humans as a cog in the economy etc etc........it's a f#cking word on a page...gas out your gob.....nothing more unlike people's right to protect themselves and their livelihood.
Regarding unions it's 2015 folks not 1978.
Your a decent fellow and the forum is better having decent fellows on it but please 're arrange your moral compass a bit.

So it's ok to post as long as they agree with you got it well like you I stand by what I said and think some of the things you said are so outdated like you said at the end it's 2015 not 1978 were you still seem to be

Re: London Underground Tube Strike on Fri 28th Aug : Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:40 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

So it's ok to post as long as they agree with you got it well like you I stand by what I said and think some of the things you said are so outdated like you said at the end it's 2015 not 1978 were you still seem to be

Full stops are a useful sometimes. They can help make statements decipherable.

Re: London Underground Tube Strike on Fri 28th Aug : Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:43 pm  

Burtons Forearm wrote:

Full stops are a useful sometimes. They can help make statements decipherable.

So in one post you point out about someone going on about a swear word and make a big deal about it then you point out about my grammar mistakes priceless

[Mild Rover]

Re: London Underground Tube Strike on Fri 28th Aug : Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:00 pm  

The sin bin offers a place to discuss political issues and other controversies. Maybe take that bit there and use this thread for discussing how to avoid or mitigate any travel problems around the Cup final. Cheers.

Re: London Underground Tube Strike on Fri 28th Aug : Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:18 pm  

Burtons Forearm wrote:

I absolutely stand by everything I posted.
It's a public forum. If people post opinions then expect replies. Some of the opinions posted we're by people who were clearly parroting media lines drawn by interested political parties. They are then open to question or ridicule dependent on content. Some of the posts were clearly idiotic and they pressed the submit button so they're open to reply.
If I then point out their idiocy on that topic don't cry about it.
Of all the issues raised you and Dreary get upset about swearing......all the moral and ethical issues and swearing brings you to post...not the loss of human rights not the media control not the use of humans as a cog in the economy etc etc........it's a f#cking word on a page...gas out your gob.....nothing more unlike people's right to protect themselves and their livelihood.
Regarding unions it's 2015 folks not 1978.
Your a decent fellow and the forum is better having decent fellows on it but please 're arrange your moral compass a bit.

You cheeky lairy little f***er. 10/10 for chutzpah. You need to get into the Rovers dressing room and give the team talks at half time as we need someone with your kind of passion. Occasionally your kind of passion needs to be channelled effectively or it will spill over into soapboxing and confrontation.

I've reread all your posts. You've gassed out a curious mix of pragmatism and total rubbish.

FWIW, here's my take.

The real world has historically been and still remains a harsh place, where generally speaking fairness and the bigger picture is the best path to follow, but sadly is not followed by or achieved by many.

Trade unions have achieved a lot in the past, but there was a time when their behaviour became too destructive for our wellbeing as a nation and Maggie sorted this out. Fast forward to 2015 and their are several trade union leaders whose behaviour is becoming undemocratic and whose rhetoric is sounding depressingly familiar to me. McCluskey, Serwotka and Ms Blower and Mrs Boustead running 2 of the largest teaching unions spring to mind.

The tube drivers have achieved a fair overall package to date by collective union bargaining and I feel that there are many in the public sector who have a more deserving case for improved remuneration and working practices, especially in London. I don't subscribe to the pathetic attempt by Boris and TFL management to impose an arbitrary start date and changes to working practices without effective prior consultation and dialogue, which would appear to be the case here.

Re: London Underground Tube Strike on Fri 28th Aug : Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:24 pm  

Pickering Red wrote:

You cheeky lairy little f***er. 10/10 for chutzpah. You need to get into the Rovers dressing room and give the team talks at half time as we need someone with your kind of passion. Occasionally your kind of passion needs to be channelled effectively or it will spill over into soapboxing and confrontation.

I've reread all your posts. You've gassed out a curious mix of pragmatism and total rubbish. The real world has historically been and still remains a harsh place, where generally speaking fairness and the bigger picture is the best path to follow, but sadly is not followed by or achieved by many.

Trade unions have achieved a lot in the past, but there was a time when their behaviour became too destructive for our wellbeing as a nation and Maggie sorted this out. Fast forward to 2015 and their are several trade union leaders whose behaviour is becoming undemocratic and whose rhetoric is sounding depressingly familiar to me. McCluskey, Serwotka and Blower and Boustead running 2 of the largest teaching unions spring to mind.

The tube drivers have achieved more than they deserve to date by collective bargaining and I feel that there are many in the public sector who have a more deserving case for improved remuneration and working practices. I don't subscribe to the pathetic attempt by Boris and TFL management to impose an arbitrary start date and changes to working practices without effective prior consultation and dialogue, which would appear to be the case here.

Language PR!!!

Re: London Underground Tube Strike on Fri 28th Aug : Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:32 pm  

roversmad wrote:

Language PR!!!

Re: London Underground Tube Strike on Fri 28th Aug : Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:47 pm  

According to the BBC website, this week's planned tube strikes in London have been called off. Yippee!!!