Re: Salford. Death or glory. : Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:06 pm  

diggory compton wrote:

Captain Peacock,James Webster,and Ben Cockayne are the main 3 reasons why nobody outside HKR wants the Rovers to win,they should learn to keep quiet,I wonder if Captain Peacock still thinks the Championship sides gets to much RFL cash?Come Saturday night Rovers could be a Championship team.

I think stating that nobody outside HKR wants them to win probably isn't true. I think most people outside Salford or Hull don't really care either way. Some may have some beef with Koukash and some dislike members of our setup.

Cockayne's quote in particular, is actually true. But to offset this, the team had 30 other games to NOT be in this position. His comments are still valid though.

I'm not sure what Webbo said that has annoyed you.

As for Jamie, it's his own opinion, just like yours stating nobody wants HKR to win, which again, is your opinion, but may not be valid.

Re: Salford. Death or glory. : Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:38 pm  

Gallanteer wrote:

I think stating that nobody outside HKR wants them to win probably isn't true. I think most people outside Salford or Hull don't really care either way. Some may have some beef with Koukash and some dislike members of our setup.

Cockayne's quote in particular, is actually true. But to offset this, the team had 30 other games to NOT be in this position. His comments are still valid though.

I'm not sure what Webbo said that has annoyed you.

As for Jamie, it's his own opinion, just like yours stating nobody wants HKR to win, which again, is your opinion, but may not be valid.

Some of us outside of Salford and Hull are watching with interest. From an outsider you have to say that Rovers bring much more to SL than Salford. The simple facts are that if Leigh replace Rovers then SL average attendances will reduce next year, however if Leigh replace Salford then they will increase. From a selfish point of view, Rovers bring a lot more people to us than Salford do and so put more money into our club and create a better atmosphere on match day when we play them. So, without even taking the whole "Koukash circus' into account, I am hoping that Rovers keep SL status this weekend. On the subject of Cockaynes quotes, yes they are true, however the situation is no different to if it was straight 'promotion and relegation'. The outcome would still be the same. Also, why should professional sportspeople have it any different to the rest of the population? You produce substandard work in 'normal job' and you risk being out of a job. People are being made redundant, or losing their jobs, through either their own fault or no fault of their own every day of the week. Why should Rugby players not be in the 'real world', and be immune to this? I think that sometimes they need to realise that they are an employee working for an employer, and that is their career choice and nobody forced them into it.

Re: Salford. Death or glory. : Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:54 pm  

caslad75 wrote:

Some of us outside of Salford and Hull are watching with interest. From an outsider you have to say that Rovers bring much more to SL than Salford. The simple facts are that if Leigh replace Rovers then SL average attendances will reduce next year, however if Leigh replace Salford then they will increase. From a selfish point of view, Rovers bring a lot more people to us than Salford do and so put more money into our club and create a better atmosphere on match day when we play them. So, without even taking the whole "Koukash circus' into account, I am hoping that Rovers keep SL status this weekend. On the subject of Cockaynes quotes, yes they are true, however the situation is no different to if it was straight 'promotion and relegation'. The outcome would still be the same. Also, why should professional sportspeople have it any different to the rest of the population? You produce substandard work in 'normal job' and you risk being out of a job. People are being made redundant, or losing their jobs, through either their own fault or no fault of their own every day of the week. Why should Rugby players not be in the 'real world', and be immune to this? I think that sometimes they need to realise that they are an employee working for an employer, and that is their career choice and nobody forced them into it.

How do you know without an hypothetical guess. Until after the 2017 season you just don't know.

Re: Salford. Death or glory. : Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:55 pm  

caslad75 wrote:

Some of us outside of Salford and Hull are watching with interest. From an outsider you have to say that Rovers bring much more to SL than Salford. The simple facts are that if Leigh replace Rovers then SL average attendances will reduce next year, however if Leigh replace Salford then they will increase. From a selfish point of view, Rovers bring a lot more people to us than Salford do and so put more money into our club and create a better atmosphere on match day when we play them. So, without even taking the whole "Koukash circus' into account, I am hoping that Rovers keep SL status this weekend. On the subject of Cockaynes quotes, yes they are true, however the situation is no different to if it was straight 'promotion and relegation'. The outcome would still be the same. Also, why should professional sportspeople have it any different to the rest of the population? You produce substandard work in 'normal job' and you risk being out of a job. People are being made redundant, or losing their jobs, through either their own fault or no fault of their own every day of the week. Why should Rugby players not be in the 'real world', and be immune to this? I think that sometimes they need to realise that they are an employee working for an employer, and that is their career choice and nobody forced them into it.

There is a big difference between straight promotion and relegation and the dumb system we have now is,win the league as leigh did last year and this year they are promoted end of story,instead of winning the league and having to go into an 8 team playoff.How do you come to think its the outcome isnt any different to promotion and relegation,give your head a gentle bang.

Re: Salford. Death or glory. : Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:04 pm  

See what your saying Des... Can FC now please have the league leaders shield for finishing top at the end of the season (just like Leigh did)

Re: Salford. Death or glory. : Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:11 pm  

des lawson wrote:

There is a big difference between straight promotion and relegation and the dumb system we have now is,win the league as leigh did last year and this year they are promoted end of story,instead of winning the league and having to go into an 8 team playoff.How do you come to think its the outcome isnt any different to promotion and relegation,give your head a gentle bang.

And the team relegated effectively 'lose their jobs' as Cockayne puts it. Sugar coat it all you like, but any promotion and relegation system results in one teams players being at risk, and the reason that they are is that they haven't been good enough. Simple

Re: Salford. Death or glory. : Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:20 pm  

Cokey wrote:

How do you know without an hypothetical guess. Until after the 2017 season you just don't know.

Leigh’s average attendance in 2016 - 4260 (Obviously going to increase to to SL status), highest 10,556
Salford average attendance in 2016 - 3193 (Down from 4106 in 2015), highest 5089
Hull KR average attendance in 2016 - 7684, highest 11,050

Now, I'm not exactly a maths professor, but these figures show it's more than just a 'hypothetical guess', as you put it.

Re: Salford. Death or glory. : Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:30 pm  

smudgersmith wrote:

See what your saying Des... Can FC now please have the league leaders shield for finishing top at the end of the season (just like Leigh did)

Agree,they should have got the shield,I bet hull at 20s to win the regular season and got paid out,but we are talking about the RFL so anything possible.

Re: Salford. Death or glory. : Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:34 pm  

caslad75 wrote:

And the team relegated effectively 'lose their jobs' as Cockayne puts it. Sugar coat it all you like, but any promotion and relegation system results in one teams players being at risk, and the reason that they are is that they haven't been good enough. Simple

I understand what your saying,but your only target next season would be to win the league which as it stands dont win you promotion which it should.

Re: Salford. Death or glory. : Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:45 pm  

caslad75 wrote:

Leigh’s average attendance in 2016 - 4260 (Obviously going to increase to to SL status), highest 10,556
Salford average attendance in 2016 - 3193 (Down from 4106 in 2015), highest 5089
Hull KR average attendance in 2016 - 7684, highest 11,050

Now, I'm not exactly a maths professor, but these figures show it's more than just a 'hypothetical guess', as you put it.

So will it be higher or lower than 7684 avg for Leigh? Like i say,we won't know until the end of next season. To suggest otherwise is an hypothetical guess.