Re: kris welham : Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:01 am  

hull2524 wrote:

just said on sky scott wheeldon back to hull? think that might mean rovers?

I thought it was just me that heard Stevo say that. FC seem to be well stocked in that department at the minute whilst we are not, so could be a possibility

Re: kris welham : Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:44 am  

Beverley red wrote:

I do get frustrated with some of the comments on here! not good enough for Rovers not the standard we want? This is the Kris Wellham who would have had international honours if he had not had a season ending injury (playing for Rovers) The Kris Wellham who is getting back to near his best & will captain the side tomorrow. I can't argue with the club or Kris if they can't agree & part company but to read some of the drivell on here turns my stomach, He has served this club well for 9 years. Finaly where are all the world class stars we are replacing him with? non of our recent signings in that area are any better than him. Good luck Kris I expect we will regret letting you go.

Have you forgotten the two seasons previous to this one when he was terrible and that he was offered a contract earlier in the season but turned it down take those rose tinted glasses off as I for one won't miss him jumping out the line leaving his winger exposed good servant yes but time to go

Re: kris welham : Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:49 am  

Good luck wherever you end up Kris (unless it's the dark side !!!!).

Re: kris welham : Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:18 am  

So, all of a sudden, Kris Welham with his 100 tries in 189 super league games isn't good enough for rovers? As it stands in 2016 we'll have Thornley (replacing Goulding), Minns (replacing Welham) and Salter fighting for the centre positions. I reckon that makes us weaker in the centres at the start of 2016 than we were in 2015 and we only managed to finish 10th this year! Unless, of course, we've got another top centre lined up but with our overseas quota full, which British centre could we realistically get to improve on 2015 squad? Starting to get a bit worried about our recruitment strategy. We also need major additions to the pack if we're aiming to go from 10th to 6th next year. Can't see where the better players to improve us will come from.

Re: kris welham : Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:45 am  

Beverley red wrote:

I do get frustrated with some of the comments on here! not good enough for Rovers not the standard we want? This is the Kris Wellham who would have had international honours if he had not had a season ending injury (playing for Rovers) The Kris Wellham who is getting back to near his best & will captain the side tomorrow. I can't argue with the club or Kris if they can't agree & part company but to read some of the drivell on here turns my stomach, He has served this club well for 9 years. Finaly where are all the world class stars we are replacing him with? non of our recent signings in that area are any better than him. Good luck Kris I expect we will regret letting you go.

As far as i'm aware he was one of the top earners at the club after Leeds came sniffing around prior to him signing his current contract, is he quality enough to be a top earner in the team? NO! he was offered a new contract on reduced rates which he couldn't accept (his choice). he spent 2 years of his current 3 year deal being terrible and a liability in defence. this season he has screwed the nut a bit and played better but not enough to justify a contract extension on par with his current rate in my opinion. for the club to progress they need to replace the weak links with better quality players or young players with potential to be better than what is already at the club. Kris was definitely a weak link in defence, let him go and frustrate a different set of fans for a while.

Re: kris welham : Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:06 am  

REDEOD wrote:

As far as i'm aware he was one of the top earners at the club after Leeds came sniffing around prior to him signing his current contract, is he quality enough to be a top earner in the team? NO! he was offered a new contract on reduced rates which he couldn't accept (his choice). he spent 2 years of his current 3 year deal being terrible and a liability in defence. this season he has screwed the nut a bit and played better but not enough to justify a contract extension on par with his current rate in my opinion. for the club to progress they need to replace the weak links with better quality players or young players with potential to be better than what is already at the club. Kris was definitely a weak link in defence, let him go and frustrate a different set of fans for a while.

I can't & won't argue that he is the best in the league or that his own & the clubs value of his worth are different. My only gripe is with the key board warriors on here saying he is not good enough for us, He is good enough & anyone who has scored 100 try's (only 17 others have done that since the club started in the 1890's) can't be that bad, as for his defence it satisfactory & could be better but he is not the sole reason we have shipped in to many points & a lot around him need to look at their own defence or lack of it. & to sugest that any of the new recruits are a class above are rubbish, though I would love them all to bloom at this club like Boudebza has but like him it is a gamble. I suspect that it all comes down to money & the club can get two youngsters for his wage? & nothing to do with his ability.

Re: kris welham : Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:06 am  

rover49 wrote:

Good luck wherever you end up Kris (unless it's the dark side !!!!).

Behave.

If that happened we could have the dream team pairing of Yeaman and Welham.

Re: kris welham : Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:07 am  

Beverley red wrote:

I can't & won't argue that he is the best in the league or that his own & the clubs value of his worth are different. My only gripe is with the key board warriors on here saying he is not good enough for us, He is good enough & anyone who has scored 100 try's (only 17 others have done that since the club started in the 1890's) can't be that bad, as for his defence it satisfactory & could be better but he is not the sole reason we have shipped in to many points & a lot around him need to look at their own defence or lack of it. & to sugest that any of the new recruits are a class above are rubbish, though I would love them all to bloom at this club like Boudebza has but like him it is a gamble. I suspect that it all comes down to money & the club can get two youngsters for his wage? & nothing to do with his ability.

Is Kris Welham a top 8 centre, if the answer is no, then Rovers have made the right decision.

Re: kris welham : Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:09 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Is Kris Welham a top 8 centre, if the answer is no, then Rovers have made the right decision.

He's not.

Re: kris welham : Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:29 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Is Kris Welham a top 8 centre, if the answer is no, then Rovers have made the right decision.

No. But the frustrating thing is that we're not replacing him with anyone that is a top 8 centre. Minns may well turn out to be decent but it's certainly a gamble and you wouldn't call him top 8 material yet. I'm sure he will be however, a much cheaper option than Welham. A sign of the times at the club?