Re: Albert Kelly : Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:40 am  

Fully agree. He's provided some great moments of skill and speed but also some dog turd moments such a wide range between his best and worst performance but it seems to me the battle is in his head.if he gets fully focused he is a high quality player and one I'd like to see again for us.

Re: Albert Kelly : Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:55 pm  

Rugby Raider wrote:

No Jake, I am not a Maths teacher, but do commercials as part of my job.

Check the KC Derby crowds if you like. Can't recall many Derbies below 18,000 and some have been over 20,000.

Typically Hull v Huddersfield or Salford would get a crowd of just over 10,000.

Therefore, a Derby uplift of 8,000 X £23 average match day admission = £184k plus other match day spend = c£200k

£200k is double £100k (LLS prize money)

I'm happy with my Maths and assumptions. Perhaps there is nothing wrong with your son's maths teacher after all.... maybe it's just his Dad.

I'm glad you don't do commercials for me. Other than you've got your average ticket price completely wrong, you've ignored VAT and the SMC agreement, you're miles off with your thinking.

If there were only 1 SL team in Hull, they'd get increased sponsorship, increased fan numbers (I know quite a few rovers fans who regularly attended the KC for the bigger games before rovers were in SL), increased away fan numbers (who would only have 1 trip to Hull to make per year so likely travel in greater numbers) and the pick of the youth. Those benefits would far outweigh the drop in income from one match.

And my lad's dad's maths is just fine thanks

Re: Albert Kelly : Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:20 pm  

DGM wrote:

Some things to consider in those workings:

The average ticket price won't be anywhere near £23. The most expensive ticket available to Warrington fans tomorrow for example is an adult at £21. Kids are £10, or free if they have a season ticket.

Also, with most people buying through their own club, their club get a kick back, which knocks that average down further.

We get nothing from the food/drink sales, and how many people bother to buy programmes these days with everything being available on the Internet?

Then there's the biggy, the deal with the SMC taking a huge bite out of your £200k. I'd estimate it to be nearer £65-£70k taking all that into account. Not a small amount by any means, but that wasn't the point I was making originally. There are many other factors to consider when figuring out if we really benefit from Rovers being in SL from a business point of view (and visa versa). This is one of the benefits definitely, but plenty of negatives too.

Also for any one game a sizable proportion of ST holders do not attend. For derby games a higher proportion attend so a lift of 1000 - 2000 may be ST holders who have already paid so there would be no additional gate money from these people.

Re: Albert Kelly : Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:30 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

No real fan of either side would really want to see there biggest rivals go down the derbies are to enjoyable depending who wins of course I'd like us both to mirror saints and wigan and be fighting it out for trophies like we were in the 80s

THE 80s hope we bring them back those were the days to watch hull and rovers just dont bring back the snow and sleet and fog

Re: Albert Kelly : Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:49 pm  

Is this accountants anonymous...


Anyone who thinks the sharks will be financially better off with Rovers not in Superleague are daft. Tv ,advertising of every type, sponsors all want the derbies.

But of course 2 games against Leigh a season will create far more business for the sharks and superleague than 2-3 derbies.

Re: Albert Kelly : Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:57 pm  

Good start to weekend..

Re: Albert Kelly : Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:13 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

Good start to weekend..

I'm not saying anything that may comeback to bite me

Re: Albert Kelly : Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:26 pm  

Phil Clarke doing his normal hatchet job on kr..and fc for that matter. spiffing chap

Re: Albert Kelly : Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:43 pm  

Great result.

Can't stand the stinking Black and White twatters, although I've recently become in need of a diamond and my Mum who's from Evil Hull has a cousin who's a jeweller, so if you're reading this David, proper sorry for you...

Re: Albert Kelly : Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:44 pm  

To quote Radford. Best tv I've seen for ages.