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Re: Kieran Dixon - Good Enough or Not? : Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:19 pm  
When does his contract expire? Think a lot of clubs would swoop on him.
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Re: Kieran Dixon - Good Enough or Not? : Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:14 pm  
I think perhaps both Dixon and also actually Omari Caro could have made superstar RL players had they come through the ranks of an established Super League side like a Leeds/Wigan rather then through the London system.

This is obviously wild speculation with no reasoning behind it rather then just what I think, but you can draw parallels between them both as being "raw" players and I think London didn't fully realise what they had with those two and failed to provide them with the kind of specialist training that would have developed them further or perhaps lacked the facilities or inclination to do so.

I don't think it's too late for Dixon but I don't think we are the right club for him at the moment. IMO he needs to spend a year or two in the national leagues, rack up the game time, be playing on the wing every single game every single week becoming more "streetwise" at a decent standard before then being brought back into the Super League. He's a talent and in offense he offers a massive threat. I think Dixon has all the stuff you cant teach, but he needs more time spent on the things that can be taught, such as defensive positioning.
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Re: Kieran Dixon - Good Enough or Not? : Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:18 pm  
Dixon has a few parts of his game to improve and if he doesn't start improving soon he won't get many more chances.
1. He needs to improve his defense, IMO he should always go low to the legs and forget about the offload. That's if he has the bottle to go low.
2. He needs to be a lot better under the high ball. At least compete for it!!!
3. When he's running the ball out at a kick return he needs to hit the defense low again. He is never going to get a leg drive on in the same way as Sio, so he needs to try to get a quick play of the ball.

Even if he did the three things above regularly other teams will still target him, he's gonna have to be brave and I'm not sure that he has the mentality.
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Re: Kieran Dixon - Good Enough or Not? : Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:34 pm  
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I think perhaps both Dixon and also actually Omari Caro could have made superstar RL players had they come through the ranks of an established Super League side like a Leeds/Wigan rather then through the London system.

This is obviously wild speculation with no reasoning behind it rather then just what I think, but you can draw parallels between them both as being "raw" players and I think London didn't fully realise what they had with those two and failed to provide them with the kind of specialist training that would have developed them further or perhaps lacked the facilities or inclination to do so.

I don't think it's too late for Dixon but I don't think we are the right club for him at the moment. IMO he needs to spend a year or two in the national leagues, rack up the game time, be playing on the wing every single game every single week becoming more "streetwise" at a decent standard before then being brought back into the Super League. He's a talent and in offense he offers a massive threat. I think Dixon has all the stuff you cant teach, but he needs more time spent on the things that can be taught, such as defensive positioning.

Omari Caro, potential Superstar RL player....lol lol lol. There's hope for us all
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Re: Kieran Dixon - Good Enough or Not? : Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:44 pm  
spegs wrote:
Omari Caro, potential Superstar RL player....lol lol lol. There's hope for us all


I think he had potential. He had size and pace.
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Re: Kieran Dixon - Good Enough or Not? : Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:04 pm  
One thing that has disappointed me about the last few years (particularly Sandercocks reign) is that we haven't improved players such as Omari Caro and Dixon. They both had/have potential.
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Re: Kieran Dixon - Good Enough or Not? : Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:14 pm  
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I think he had potential. He had size and pace.


Scoring tries at Brat-fud, would love him to get back into SL, could and hopefully will happen.

I just don't understand why people who watch the sport gain glee from players struggling, actually, I do.

It's because they themselves never even got a chance to give it a go, they were the third pick on the school playground, and on the off chance they got a go, they were the kid who threw the ball on the ground as soon as anybody looked like they might tackle them.

And then they accuse the like of Caro and Dixon of having no steel.
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Re: Kieran Dixon - Good Enough or Not? : Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:29 pm  
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Scoring tries at Brat-fud, would love him to get back into SL, could and hopefully will happen.

I just don't understand why people who watch the sport gain glee from players struggling, actually, I do.

It's because they themselves never even got a chance to give it a go, they were the third pick on the school playground, and on the off chance they got a go, they were the kid who threw the ball on the ground as soon as anybody looked like they might tackle them.

And then they accuse the like of Caro and Dixon of having no steel.

Well said Sandro :CLAP: :CLAP: :CLAP:
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Re: Kieran Dixon - Good Enough or Not? : Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:48 pm  
Leaving aside all the facial, head and body stitches and displaced patella from my Rugby playing days plus the numerous finger fractures, dislocations, impact scar tissue I got during 25 plus years of playing League Cricket, often fielding at short leg or silly mid off without helmet or shin pads, I won't take your none too subtle side swipe too personally, Goose.

I have championed Dixon in the past, but he values his looks too much imo. No improvement being shown and too often a liability, so he needs to go. Sorry.
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Re: Kieran Dixon - Good Enough or Not? : Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:10 pm  
But then I understand you less.

I apologise for calling your opinions into question through lack of experience, but I do not apologise for you calling people you have not played with or a game you have not played cowards.

The game is different now, and not for me, always in a good way. I think player welfare is of a horribly low standard.

When we got into SL, I remember thinking the collision was fierce. Much more than when I had played the game to a much lesser level several years earlier. It had moved on since then.

Dixon I estimate to be about twelve and a half stone, everytime he plays and takes an exit set ball he is met by about fifty (at a conservative estimate) stone of force.

Is that cowardly?
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