Re: Wakefield score : Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:53 pm  

Pickering Red wrote:

For a while it was like watching the recent Halifax game again.

First 25 minutes we were DIRE.

Our starting front row were bloody awful. Walker was ponderous and predictable. Lunt repeatedly chose the wrong option in his opening stint . Allgood was an unfit, slow, penalty machine who was flappy in the tackle and had zero line speed. Allgood's second spell was no better. I've seen Tilse take some stick on here, but he hasn't put in a shift as crap as Allgood and Walker did today so I would hope to see some redress and perspective going forward from my fellow forumsters in support of Tilse.

The game changed when our bench came on. 2 X JG were both very good at prop, Boudebza was urgent and direct and my MOM again and Donaldson ran him a close second. Really happy for Kieran Dixon as well. He has stepped out on his path to redemption. Sio also good at fullback. Chisholm average, Marsh anonymous.

All in all very scratchy and tough on Wakey who deserved more. Still a win is a win and I'm happy and my blood pressure is finally back to normal.

4 from 4. In this form, how is this possible?

Agree with almost all,why donaldson dosn't get more game time I dont know,as you say him and boudebza quickened it up.Ive seen marsh three times now and iam afraid not quite good enough,and greg burke is a waste of a shirt imo.Good result tired performance.

Re: Wakefield score : Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:24 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

I thought Donaldson was average today he's never going to break the line but his tackling usually makes up for it but today he was getting knocked off in the tackle all the time he's to small

Sorry Frankie but really got to disagree here, mate.

Donaldson and Boudebza in the last 3 games (Wembley included) have given us 2 key elements, namely speed and urgency.

Donno like today often does get knocked over, but always gets up quick for a fast ptb. He is the quickest of all our forwards in this regard. He breaks the line too. He and French John have the best tackle technique. Go low and take their legs. I always feel we are playing at the right tempo as a team, when these guys are on the pitch.

Re: Wakefield score : Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:22 pm  

Agree about Allgood as well, always messing about at the play of the ball, mainly cos he lost the collision.

Re: Wakefield score : Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:46 pm  

Stop with the French John.

I like Donaldson a lot, he runs really intelligent lines at first receiver, however I also agree he's too small.

I just can't find a position for him, six years ago I'd have said he was a centre, he does inject a lot of energy.

Boudebza continues to be a great foil to Lunt, works so hard and gives us an excellent boost when he comes on. His defence is Ben Fisheresque, chops them down. Very, very good around the ruck.

Re: Wakefield score : Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:08 pm  

Pickering Red wrote:

Sorry Frankie but really got to disagree here, mate.

Donaldson and Boudebza in the last 3 games (Wembley included) have given us 2 key elements, namely speed and urgency.

Donno like today often does get knocked over, but always gets up quick for a fast ptb. He is the quickest of all our forwards in this regard. He breaks the line too. He and French John have the best tackle technique. Go low and take their legs. I always feel we are playing at the right tempo as a team, when these guys are on the pitch.

I sort of agree with Sandra on that I can't find a position for him to small to be a forward he sort of plays like a hooker with little darting runs and his energy problem is he's not he's a second row if he was six inches taller and four stone heavier hed be a world beater

Re: Wakefield score : Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:00 am  

fun time frankie wrote:

I sort of agree with Sandra on that I can't find a position for him to small to be a forward he sort of plays like a hooker with little darting runs and his energy problem is he's not he's a second row if he was six inches taller and four stone heavier hed be a world beater

Donno played a few games at hooker for bradford and I think thats probably his best position,tons of effort.

Re: Wakefield score : Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:18 am  

Pickering Red wrote:

For a while it was like watching the recent Halifax game again.

First 25 minutes we were DIRE.

Our starting front row were bloody awful. Walker was ponderous and predictable. Lunt repeatedly chose the wrong option in his opening stint . Allgood was an unfit, slow, penalty machine who was flappy in the tackle and had zero line speed. Allgood's second spell was no better. I've seen Tilse take some stick on here, but he hasn't put in a shift as crap as Allgood and Walker did today so I would hope to see some redress and perspective going forward from my fellow forumsters in support of Tilse.

The game changed when our bench came on. 2 X JG were both very good at prop, Boudebza was urgent and direct and my MOM again and Donaldson ran him a close second. Really happy for Kieran Dixon as well. He has stepped out on his path to redemption. Sio also good at fullback. Chisholm average, Marsh anonymous.

All in all very scratchy and tough on Wakey who deserved more. Still a win is a win and I'm happy and my blood pressure is finally back to normal.

4 from 4. In this form, how is this possible?

I agree with most of that, I can't work out why Walker seems to want to find his back rather than his front in tackles, he goes in backwards all the time making it simple for the defender to control the ruck, we need forwards who are going down on the front and up quickly to get the pack on a roll. Boudebza's injection of pace came from playing his stint off the back of the 2 JG's finding the front.
I actually think Tilse gets a quickish play the ball at the expense of a couple of yards when he's playing well.

The other thing is why dont we support the man with the ball, Green barged through a couple of times and never mind no one being on his shoulder, there was no one waiting for the next ptb and the go forward petered out.

Re: Wakefield score : Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:56 am  

barham red wrote:

I agree with most of that, I can't work out why Walker seems to want to find his back rather than his front in tackles, he goes in backwards all the time making it simple for the defender to control the ruck, we need forwards who are going down on the front and up quickly to get the pack on a roll. Boudebza's injection of pace came from playing his stint off the back of the 2 JG's finding the front.
I actually think Tilse gets a quickish play the ball at the expense of a couple of yards when he's playing well.

The other thing is why dont we support the man with the ball, Green barged through a couple of times and never mind no one being on his shoulder, there was no one waiting for the next ptb and the go forward petered out.

I think with what i so when watching the game on sky extra i think that green who did not play last week at wembley was a lot fitter then the rest of the team and the team who were knacked failed to keep up with him

Re: Wakefield score : Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:49 am  

The best side lost, better structure we were awful but found a way to win. We got the points that's all that matters.

Re: Wakefield score : Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:43 am  

cravenpark1 wrote:

I think with what i so when watching the game on sky extra i think that green who did not play last week at wembley was a lot fitter then the rest of the team and the team who were knacked failed to keep up with him

For me and quite a few others judging by previous comments, fitness has been a problem all season, we don't look fit enough full stop.
Hopefully next season with a rumoured new backroom team on board this is something that will be resolved.