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Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:37 pm  
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I think we need to keep Dixon at full back. He needs constant game time there. We need to accept he's going to make mistakes but its (hopefully) for a long term gain. I honestly feel bringing someone else in to play full back as well will hamper his development.

Other topic on this for me here: Salter. Good enough or not. For me he just isn't good enough to be a starting centre for us. He's okay but I feel he's the sort of play we need to be looking to upgrade for next season. Maybe Minns will be the player to replace him. I'm wondering if Peacock will be bringing any other prospects over with him

Salter is still only a young player starting off his career & getting better with each game, defending very very well has put out some very well worked passes to his wing. Kris & he will be the starting pair & Minns will have to be good to get in ahead of them. Salter is not a flashy extovert he just gets on with his job & is just what we need.
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Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:03 pm  
Let's see how Minns does against salter when Rovers play Sheffield. I like salter, good defender, is improving his attack. Backs himself more these days.
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Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:10 pm  
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Let's see how Minns does against salter when Rovers play Sheffield. I like salter, good defender, is improving his attack. Backs himself more these days.


Are they loaning him from Leeds on alternate weeks to Fev then?
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Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:16 pm  
One thing that Salter has really added to his game this year is a quick tap and from penalties, he invariably get's over the gain,line to make thirteen or fourteen metres.

His defence also remains decent, if he can continue to improve that aspect of his game he should have a reasonable career, not a flashy player but there should always be a place for a defensive centre.

As long as Sio is here, all he needs to do is put him a bit of space and his job's done.
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Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:19 pm  
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Are they loaning him from Leeds on alternate weeks to Fev then?


Yea that's what they do, dint you know? Tbh I had a feeling after I posted that he did play for fev. Just couldn't be bothered to check.
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Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:23 pm  
We need a good prop, a good loan prop, a fast and bullocking back rower, a right centre and Lunt to commit.

To measure how good Liam Salter is or isn't at right centre, here are the starters in his position for this year's top 4 SL teams. Watkins, Percival, Gelling, Cudjoe.
To illustrate what I mean by a good prop, here's 4 from the same teams that set the benchmark in this position. Peacock, Walmsley, Crosby, Crabtree.
Examples of bullocking back rowers from the same teams. Cuthbertson, Ablett, Joe Greenwood, Vea, McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Tautai, Farrell, Ta'ai, Ferres.

Happy with James Greenwood at prop on loan for another year.

Would be interested to know how you rate our squad against the above players.

Also Goulding was justifiably our right centre for the early part of the season. Now Salter. Hmmmmm. Big decrease in class.
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Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:25 pm  
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Yea that's what they do, dint you know? Tbh I had a feeling after I posted that he did play for fev. Just couldn't be bothered to check.


:D You should know that factual inaccuracies are food & drink to pedantic gets like me!
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Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:31 pm  
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:D You should know that factual inaccuracies are food & drink to pedantic gets like me!


There's nout wrong with wanting to look clever on here haha
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Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:34 pm  
Have i missed something on welham? Has he been announced as definitely being with us next year? Just thinking with minns and rumours of thornley coming maybe they could be our starting centres next year
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Re: Evolution : Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:38 pm  
Pickering Red wrote:
We need a good prop, a good loan prop, a fast and bullocking back rower, a right centre and Lunt to commit.

To measure how good Liam Salter is or isn't at right centre, here are the starters in his position for this year's top 4 SL teams. Watkins, Percival, Gelling, Cudjoe.
To illustrate what I mean by a good prop, here's 4 from the same teams that set the benchmark in this position. Peacock, Walmsley, Crosby, Crabtree.
Examples of bullocking back rowers from the same teams. Cuthbertson, Ablett, Joe Greenwood, Vea, McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Tautai, Farrell, Ta'ai, Ferres.

Happy with James Greenwood at prop on loan for another year.

Would be interested to know how you rate our squad against the above players.

Also Goulding was justifiably our right centre for the early part of the season. Now Salter. Hmmmmm. Big decrease in class.

The one thing in common with the above mentioned is that none are or will be available to rovers, start by naming players who are available to us remembering we have no overseas places left. & Salter is a very good player as good as Whelam who is getting back to the form that got him an International call up a couple of seasons ago. Our backs have not been a problem this season it is size up front we have lacked ilustrated by having to play Laroyer way out of position most of the year.
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