Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:47 pm  

I have just got the "News from Hull FC" email, in which they state that some players are coming back from injury etc. It also states that Gleeson is on compassionate leave.

If he is, as I am led to believe, suffering some genuine mental issues then I hope the club are supporting him all they can, BUT, having said that, surely he should now be on SSP and not a lot more, we cannot be sentimental. As far as we know next seasons contract has been weighted to get him under this seasons cap, we cannot continue much longer not knowing if he is to play for us next season.

It's a different situation in professional RL to most business, having a staff member on the payroll and unable to work is a cost to any business, but in a business with squads and a strict salary cap can we really, in the cold light of day, continue to carry him?

Now, I know some people will post that we should never have signed him, and I agree, but I am not getting into that, at what point do we say "enough is enough" and put the interests of Hull FC before the individual, ANY individual.

or am I being harsh and unsympathetic?

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:53 pm  

Standee wrote:

I have just got the "News from Hull FC" email, in which they state that some players are coming back from injury etc. It also states that Gleeson is on compassionate leave.

If he is, as I am led to believe, suffering some genuine mental issues then I hope the club are supporting him all they can, BUT, having said that, surely he should now be on SSP and not a lot more, we cannot be sentimental. As far as we know next seasons contract has been weighted to get him under this seasons cap, we cannot continue much longer not knowing if he is to play for us next season.

It's a different situation in professional RL to most business, having a staff member on the payroll and unable to work is a cost to any business, but in a business with squads and a strict salary cap can we really, in the cold light of day, continue to carry him?

Now, I know some people will post that we should never have signed him, and I agree, but I am not getting into that, at what point do we say "enough is enough" and put the interests of Hull FC before the individual, ANY individual.

or am I being harsh and unsympathetic?

No, you are just being realistic, think we should release him at the end of this season, like the Long signing, it was a gamble that didnt pay off, the guy has way too much baggage.
Signing a centre for next season as well as a prop has to be high on our priorities.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:57 pm  

What is SSP?

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:57 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

What is SSP?

Statutory Sick Pay?

[Chris71]

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:57 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

What is SSP?

Statutory Sick Pay

[Mild Rover]

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:58 pm  

Cheers.

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:59 pm  

My view is that we should pay up his contract for next season (before a game is played so that the payment doesn't count on the cap) and replace him. I was extremely sceptical about the signing in the first place and it has been shown to be a mistake. That said, the club entered into a contract with him, and they should honour that by paying him up.

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:04 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

My view is that we should pay up his contract for next season (before a game is played so that the payment doesn't count on the cap) and replace him. I was extremely sceptical about the signing in the first place and it has been shown to be a mistake. That said, the club entered into a contract with him, and they should honour that by paying him up.

I totally understand the sentiment, however, if it were you or I would an employer go to such expense and pay us a year in advance, he cannot meet the terms and conditions of his contract, therefore why should we pay him up?

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:05 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

My view is that we should pay up his contract for next season (before a game is played so that the payment doesn't count on the cap) and replace him. I was extremely sceptical about the signing in the first place and it has been shown to be a mistake. That said, the club entered into a contract with him, and they should honour that by paying him up.

Wouldn't that then count on this years cap?

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:06 pm  

The deal should have been done so that we could release him if he was not upto contract obligations etc .

Can't see him playing for us again though