Can see Burgess booking his flight back to Bondi soon

with our game tomorrow Citys run of four home games to come and our season starting week after next can see Rosenoir moaning that the pitch is ruining their beautiful football style if they dont get the results they want

No Tuimavave or Sao today. Balmforth on the bench, though.

Dominated the first 20 pretty much, just lacked a bit of cutting edge on their line to get over for a try. The last 20 we seemed to go away from the offloads slightly but Wigan were mote on the ball by that point.
Forwards all going well, big minutes from Pele and Herman that half and I like the look of Ashworth.
A pretty even game all round and only a kick try (with a bit of bad luck involved) against us.

not even now
shows the huge difference in speed and class

Im a seasoned campaigner so no that losing in pre season isnt the end of the world and alot happens in friendlies that wont later in the season.

However not going to lie this is awful, ive not seen one thing thats made me think we trouble teams. The defence for me is extremeley worrying.

I know its pre season but wow, seems far from a culture change at the moment. Gladly will be wrong.

Shows the difference in squad depth as well….No-one will get close to Wigan this season with the squad they have…he will have a job on keeping them all happy.

Didn't go. But first half sound ok ,Second half awful. Yes it's a friendly but did not expect that score. Couple of weeks to try to sort some stuff out.

Only pre-season but sadly I thought that was a very worrying performance from Hull. As I've said previously when on this board Hull are my second team and I want them to do well but it looks another tough year. A pretty good opening 20 led by some fresh, powerful forwards but a lack of direction in attack and too many losses of concentration. Wigan were very poor with the ball in the first half - French looked particularly sluggish. But in the second half, Wigan's depth and superior fitness clearly told and the way Hull fell away would have to be concerning.

Brown looks quality but Hull in this game looked to have similar problems to recent years - a lack of resilience when things start to go wrong, lack of concentration and discipline, limited squad depth and now with Clifford gone there's no clear organiser in the team.

I agree its a friendly but the difference in pace and class in huge.
I keep saying we have no strike in this team in the threequarters and as soon as the forwards run out of steam we are easy to exploit down the middle.
Rovers will do the same to us

Hmm.
My verdict after the first half was quite positive. Stood up to Wigan physically, defended pretty well and definitely promising from the forwards. A bit concerning in attack but new and slightly makeshift halfback combo, missing Trueman etc so I can live with it for now.
My verdict at full time is...oh dear. Strap in for another long year

No need to be so dramatic. We went well in first half and in second smith decided to take off a lot of players.

Charles must’ve got 25-30 mins
Litten got 40

Having them next to each other was our downfall. Think that edge conceded 4-5 tries in the second half.

Did Gardner even come on?

Wigan are the bench mark and we have 15-16 players who can compete. After that we’re in trouble