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Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:19 am  
PAUL M wrote:
Apparently so. It's a shame because personally I think he is still one of the best British wingers around but he has had plenty of chances so he can have no complaints.



your missing a 'when fit' out of there paul and i think thats a big part of the problem
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Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:23 pm  
So has he "gone" ? Or is it just expected/estimated that he will be ??

Surely we must be looking at a fair wedge of salary cap with his wage added to the amount that we already had left ?
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Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:47 pm  
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So has he "gone" ? Or is it just expected/estimated that he will be ??

Surely we must be looking at a fair wedge of salary cap with his wage added to the amount that we already had left ?


Maybe his salary is not as big as people may think. Why else would he even contemplate doing the naughty things he is accused of, other than to make ends meat. :o :o

















I’m not really that naive :lol: sheer greed is at the root of his current predicament. If found guilty, then he deserves everything he gets, and I for one won’t lose too much sleep over the guy.
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With typical under-statement, Saints coach Mick Potter said: "Sean Long didn't surprise me. We all know how good he is and he should be happy with the way he went." That could be translated as, "damn him, damn, damn him, the little ..."

Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:10 pm  
Well if his case isnt going to court until 2 months into the new season whats so wrong with 'innocent until proven guilty' and if fit use him ?
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Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:18 pm  
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Well if his case isnt going to court until 2 months into the new season whats so wrong with 'innocent until proven guilty' and if fit use him ?


Nothing at all, but then again there is nothing wrong with been realistic either. If he is to leave the club early, could it be a sign that they are preparing early for the inevitable?
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Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:22 pm  
MR BOJANGLES wrote:
Well if his case isnt going to court until 2 months into the new season whats so wrong with 'innocent until proven guilty' and if fit use him ?

The phrase 'if fit' is the crucial one. He isn't currently, and maybe the prognosis is that he won't be match fit until around the time of his court case. There may also be other factors in play that are not in the public domain.
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Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:24 pm  
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If he has gone, then in the new spirit of openness and communication with the fans, is there any prospect of an official announcement from the club any time soon?

The club may not have finalised anything yet. And they will have to be very careful of releasing any statement that might conceivably impact on his impending court case. Better to say nothing until everything is cut-and-dried and run past the legal team.
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Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:35 pm  
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The club may not have finalised anything yet. And they will have to be very careful of releasing any statement that might conceivably impact on his impending court case. Better to say nothing until everything is cut-and-dried and run past the legal team.


He has denied the allegations against him and is of course innocent until proven guilty. However I think we all know the club is likely to sack him if he is convicted and certainly if he is sent down.

His April trial date has been known since September. What has happened since then to change things? Is there something else we don't know about, as alluded to by The Brother?
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With typical under-statement, Saints coach Mick Potter said: "Sean Long didn't surprise me. We all know how good he is and he should be happy with the way he went." That could be translated as, "damn him, damn, damn him, the little ..."

Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:45 pm  
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He has denied the allegations against him and is of course innocent until proven guilty. However I think we all know the club is likely to sack him if he is convicted and certainly if he is sent down.

His April trial date has been known since September. What has happened since then to change things? Is there something else we don't know about, as alluded to by The Brother?



Believe me nothing has been sorted with Raynor at the moment and nothing will be before April. Actually the club are being as supportive as they can.
Obviously the club will have reason to offload him if the worst happens but why make problems for themselves whilst the guy is still innocent.
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Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:00 pm  
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Believe me nothing has been sorted with Raynor at the moment and nothing will be before April. Actually the club are being as supportive as they can.
Obviously the club will have reason to offload him if the worst happens but why make problems for themselves whilst the guy is still innocent.


I don't think this rumour is all to do with his impending court date, I believe it's been the way he has conducted himself in pre-season. I believe he may have been a silly boy once again.
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