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Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 10:31 pm  
kev from bev wrote:
[so mr agar my point is , please sign us a class no7]

If only there was a spare one knocking around.
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Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 10:33 pm  
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If only there was a spare one knocking around.


I think we will be fine :)
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Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 10:36 pm  
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I think we will be fine :)

Fitness permitting. :)
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Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 10:58 pm  
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I think we will be fine :)




i think we will be ok, but if mr agar does not recognise that longy is not the answer for next season then we have to question his actions. i rate longy but age and injuries are now against him. sam obst is a cracking little player, but i think just how good hull could be with a half decent 7. if you look back over the last few seasons longy and adam dykes were both cracking players, but at the wrong end of their careers and hit hard with injuries. i really liked mathew head, but again quite injury prone and did take some big hits. i know its been said before but look at brough now, playin great rugby, i know he had to go, but he is at the right age and strong and physical. same with dobson, hull had their chance, but his record speaks for itself. so i think past experiences speak for themself. the proof is there for everyone to see. so please mr agar give us an answer to all our prayers, a 7 not ready to hang his boots up.
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Re: Agar Out! : Sat May 21, 2011 3:53 am  
The season is certainly looking a good deal brighter than it did a month ago, immediately prior to easter. The standard of rugby being played and the entertainment value being served is probably the best we've had since the back end of the 2007 season. Now I know that's not saying much when taking into consideration some of the absolute dross we've had to endure at times during the past 3 seasons, but surely most of us on here have enjoyed watching the games since Good Friday.

Having taken the brickbats when things weren't going well, Agar is entitled to a degree of praise when there is an upturn in fortune. He has had a stroke of luck with recent additions to the playing roster. Unforseen circumstances have resulted in Phelps,Obst and Gleeson arriving at the club bringing cohesion and structure to the side which we haven't seen for 3 or 4 years. Yes, he was fortuitous in the manner in which the team fell into place, but that is what happens sometimes, and whether by accident or design we can't deny that on the evidence of the past month Richard has made full use of the players he now has at his disposal.

The problem at the moment of course, is that none of us know whether we have genuinely turn a decisive corner and are capable of mounting a serious challenge at the very top of the game or whether we are just simply having a good month, similar to the one that Quins had in Feb/Mar.

From a personal point of view, I still have too many reservations and doubts about his ability to lead us to the summit. I'm sure that in the short term we are more than capable of beating anyone, as on Easter Monday. But I'm still not convinced that long term he is the right man for us. I still see him as a mid table coach when we really should be looking for the man who can take us to the stars.

I've been watching Hull Fc for far too many years and seen far too many false dawns and been let down and frustrated by them far too many times to ever get too carried away by a couple of decent results. I've enjoyed this last month, the results have been good, the games have been entertaining and the rugby on show from our team has at times been exciting to watch. But it's going to take a good deal more to convince this old cynic that this squad and this coach is capable of putting our club where it should be, at the top of the tree.

We need an inspirational figure to take us on a great leap forward and, recent results notwithstanding, I still do not believe that R.A. is that man. But I will give him credit for the past month and whatever any of us on here think, Richard Agar will now almost certainly be our head coach into 2012 and will in all probability see out his current contract at the very least.
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Re: Agar Out! : Sat May 21, 2011 5:44 am  
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Fitness permitting. :)


as in a new halfback :)
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Re: Agar Out! : Sat May 21, 2011 7:44 am  
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as in a new halfback :)


Yep...I am hearing the same :PRAY:
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Re: Agar Out! : Sat May 21, 2011 9:25 am  
wolfie wrote:
as in a new halfback :)


Rich Agar said as much on Humberside yesterday - he wants another play maker and "you can never have enough creative players" in the team. Sounds promising.
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Re: Agar Out! : Sat May 21, 2011 9:29 am  
kev from bev wrote:
i think we will be ok, but if mr agar does not recognise that longy is not the answer for next season then we have to question his actions. i rate longy but age and injuries are now against him. sam obst is a cracking little player, but i think just how good hull could be with a half decent 7. if you look back over the last few seasons longy and adam dykes were both cracking players, but at the wrong end of their careers and hit hard with injuries. i really liked mathew head, but again quite injury prone and did take some big hits. i know its been said before but look at brough now, playin great rugby, i know he had to go, but he is at the right age and strong and physical. same with dobson, hull had their chance, but his record speaks for itself. so i think past experiences speak for themself. the proof is there for everyone to see. so please mr agar give us an answer to all our prayers, a 7 not ready to hang his boots up.


Agar has said in the past couple of days that he's looking for a scrum half and to sign players in the more pivotal positions, which could mean a new fullback too.
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Re: Agar Out! : Sat May 21, 2011 9:33 am  
jimmyfivebellies wrote:
Yet we are one win away from 6th,with half the season to go! We could jump to 6th next week depending on results (i admit unlikely,but possibly)

Hull v Huddersfield
Castleford v Harlequins,
Wakefield v Catalan Dragons,

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7 Catalan Dr 14 7 1 6 292 305 15
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I agree completely Jimmy the season lasts 27 games and it is the league position after that time that matters. There are "what ifs" in any season for all teams but two results - Cas at home and Wigan away (our equal best performance of the season along with Wire away) could and IMO should have gone our way. They didn't which means things are that bit harder. Progress has been steady but more is needed. The biggest missing element for us IMO is a grade A kicking game - Longy is B+ when he plays but if we could land a top kicker that would take us to the top tier I reckon.
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