[Chris71]

Re: So it all starts. Next Up HULL KR : Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:07 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Why would a Covid loan hurt us more than other S/L clubs,that is the big question
The real problem we have with finance is that Hull FC is Pearsons only income,we know funds are tight
but we dont know how much he takes out of the club.

Probably because we still had to pay the going rate per week/month even when no games where going ahead and when games were played but no fans allowed in the Stadium.

Re: So it all starts. Next Up HULL KR : Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:30 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

Probably because we still had to pay the going rate per week/month even when no games where going ahead and when games were played but no fans allowed in the Stadium.

But there are other clubs playing in Joint stadiums with football teams,RU teams or council controlled stadiums.
The difference as i said is that Hull FC is Pearsons only income and whilst he is entitled to receive money from the club what we dont know is how much he actually takes from the club in salary or other means.
Its probably one reason why he seemingly wants to retain full control of the club.
I am not having a go at Pearson but whilst the club is in a truly dire situation on and off the field it wouldnt be a bad thing for him to engage with the fans on a regular pod cast on FC live.Say it as it is and let him hear what the fans think.He seems to have gone away from what used to be a reasonably close relationship with the fanbase
If he loses support of the fan base the club is dead

Re: So it all starts. Next Up HULL KR : Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:38 pm  

bonaire wrote:

But there are other clubs playing in Joint stadiums with football teams,RU teams or council controlled stadiums.
The difference as i said is that Hull FC is Pearsons only income and whilst he is entitled to receive money from the club what we dont know is how much he actually takes from the club in salary or other means.
Its probably one reason why he seemingly wants to retain full control of the club.

I am not having a go at Pearson but whilst the club is in a truly dire situation on and off the field it wouldnt be a bad thing for him to engage with the fans on a regular pod cast on FC live.Say it as it is and let him hear what the fans think.He seems to have gone away from what used to be a reasonably close relationship with the fanbase

If he loses support of the fan base the club is dead

You get the occasional interview in the Yorkshire Post and HDM which raises more questions than answers but I agree with the state of play at the moment he needs to engage with the fans directly. And soon.

[Chris71]

Re: So it all starts. Next Up HULL KR : Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:43 pm  

bonaire wrote:

But there are other clubs playing in Joint stadiums with football teams,RU teams or council controlled stadiums.
The difference as i said is that Hull FC is Pearsons only income and whilst he is entitled to receive money from the club what we dont know is how much he actually takes from the club in salary or other means.
Its probably one reason why he seemingly wants to retain full control of the club.
I am not having a go at Pearson but whilst the club is in a truly dire situation on and off the field it wouldnt be a bad thing for him to engage with the fans on a regular pod cast on FC live.Say it as it is and let him hear what the fans think.He seems to have gone away from what used to be a reasonably close relationship with the fanbase
If he loses support of the fan base the club is dead

I don’t disagree

Re: So it all starts. Next Up HULL KR : Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:22 am  

Chris71 wrote:

The lack of not just quality in the halves but the actual lack halves is a huge problem for us and it was glaringly obvious last night.
Doesn’t matter in a sense how good the forwards are when we have nothing in terms of creating or using the platform created.
We never looked anywhere close to scoring

Whilst we look weak in the backs I think there’s enough there to work on that can improve us there but again with the halves we have very little in terms of the ability to link it all together.

I don't even know why we have an academy, when was the last quality player, not just someone who can get in the team, came out of it? Horne/Houghton? That's nearly 20 years.

Re: So it all starts. Next Up HULL KR : Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:53 am  

When was the last time Hull FC academy produced a fantastic
7 , 6 or centre ?

When ??? The answer will surprise you and I mean a player on the verge of Intl honours

Cooke - we won 1 Challenge Cup with him
Horne - full back ? And again very little success
Yeaman - as above

Before them ?

It’s clear that the Academy only creates forwards in general

Remember FC rejected Shaul despite me advising them to take him and he played at Skirlaugh Open Age

So we really have a shocking track record at producing a 7 , 6 or centre

Re: So it all starts. Next Up HULL KR : Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:20 am  

Edenmain wrote:

I don't even know why we have an academy, when was the last quality player, not just someone who can get in the team, came out of it? Horne/Houghton? That's nearly 20 years.

Mikey Lewis.

Oh, wait.....

Re: So it all starts. Next Up HULL KR : Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:33 am  

Irregs#16 wrote:

Mikey Lewis.

Oh, wait.....

Jez Litten too

Re: So it all starts. Next Up HULL KR : Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:03 am  

Only club not to score a single point and at home against our arch rivals. Can see much more of the same come Friday.

Re: So it all starts. Next Up HULL KR : Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:11 am  

The games afoot wrote:

You Pearsons accountant?….you don’t know about the debts,just guessing…..as for all the other waffle…just waffle

Finance information is available to all for LTD companies.

Rovers and Hull FC need to be in SL. Since time began the rivalry has been part of our lives and no one wants to see Hull out of business. I can’t explain why Hull have two really wrong people at the helm.

Smith is a disaster waiting to happen. If he cannot control all things Hull FC he will want out. Pearson has an arrogance which won’t allow Smith to do that and for that reason they clash.

I would guess Pearson has zero external income so keeps control to pay his own bills. He won’t be on minimum wage either. The loans he must have personally underwritten meaning they are the clubs debts but he guarantees them, somehow. companies house is an interesting one and the change of name. No bank will ask you to change your name surely other than for new loans having to be in the name of the applicant.

I guess the salary cap spend will come out at some point but if as he quoted Hull are at CAP then that’s further proof of Smiths miss management.