Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:00 pm  

Hangover from radders coaching is that we continue to concede penalties when in possession of the ball.
The scrum penalty for not packing down was schoolboy stuff.
We must have created a SL record for least metres gained in a match and completion rate was shocking.

[Chris71]

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:04 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

A couple of Wembley wins and just missing out on OT twice in the semis was good but I suppose a relegation scrap might bring a different type of excitement.

2016 & 2017 apart we played some awful rugby and went on significant losing runs. So the 2 Wembley wins apart the club massively underachieved considering the money spent.

It’s the same old statement thrown out that we had two Wembley wins and nearly got to OT but it was nearly and we didn’t get to OT did we. The Wembley wins whilst great just glossed over the poor performances in the league culminating in some of the most pitiful displays by a team wearing black & white and record losing runs.

Today was never going to easy but we practically gave St’s the game without them having to break a sweat due to the same old issues that we have seen for far too long.

As I said before the game as long as the effort was there and the players gave it their all I’d be happy but sadly yet again we fail to get even the basics right turn out another poor performance with attitude and desire once again missing

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:16 pm  

Being a realist, although mocked at, I said it could easily be another 20 years, if we're lucky, before we ever lay our hands on any silverware again.
We'll be a quarter of the way there after blanking out again this season.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:47 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Mitch a player who has played about 6 games has been our best defender.

yes he did very well when he came on
might have to stick him in the second row
deserves another run.Maybe Mcintosh to centre and leave out Scott or drop to the bench

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:50 pm  

Duke Eddington wrote:

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For those accusing Lomax of feigning injury and saying he was barely touched, brushed his thigh etc.

It only needs kissing better.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:00 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Offered nothing going forward, 4 mistakes and got beat the ball by Welsby for that try.

Was tough circumstances and first game back though, thought Mitch did well, put Mcintosh at FB maybe.

Connor will be back to full back
Shaul made several handling errors at play the ball and was out of position for the Welsby try but still should have got to the ball first.
I agree he needs to get criticised but no one criticises Griffin for several handling errors and a brain fart kick on attacking in their 20

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:04 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Connor will be back to full back
Shaul made several handling errors at play the ball and was out of position for the Welsby try but still should have got to the ball first.
I agree he needs to get criticised but no one criticises Griffin for several handling errors and a brain fart kick on attacking in their 20

Are you advocating for him to return to centre?

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:05 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

2016 & 2017 apart we played some awful rugby and went on significant losing runs. So the 2 Wembley wins apart the club massively underachieved considering the money spent.

It’s the same old statement thrown out that we had two Wembley wins and nearly got to OT but it was nearly and we didn’t get to OT did we. The Wembley wins whilst great just glossed over the poor performances in the league culminating in some of the most pitiful displays by a team wearing black & white and record losing runs.

Today was never going to easy but we practically gave St’s the game without them having to break a sweat due to the same old issues that we have seen for far too long.

As I said before the game as long as the effort was there and the players gave it their all I’d be happy but sadly yet again we fail to get even the basics right turn out another poor performance with attitude and desire once again missing

Anyone watching re runs of our Wembley wins just see how disciplined we were on the day.
Have to say under this coach our discipline is getting worse .

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:15 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

Are you advocating for him to return to centre?

If we had another centre and a full compliment of forwards he wouldnt be in my team but used off the bench.
He makes a few metres at centre but other than that his poor defence,lack of pace and a poor passing game he is not a wingmans centre.
I know a lot of Hull fans thing he is great but there are many who dont.
My point was Dave K was quite rightly criticising Shaul for his errors today but Griffin also made several without any criticism

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:30 pm  

The Dentist Wilf wrote:

A depleted team, a poor afternoon weatherise and the best visiting team in the game, but ......For us one of the worst first halves Ive seen in ages too much standing and waiting for the attacking players in our defensive line, so slow to play the ball, so much confusion in our attacking line, a captain who has a brain fart and gets sent off just when we needed him most, too many penalties conceded and for me at least a bad attitude at times. For years we have asked the question and for years it has been unanswered in that when will we get a Coach a captain or a senior player group or even a tea lady that can stop our constant stream of penalties conceded most of which are just plain brain dead efforts and which yet appear week in week out season in season out. And when will we get a defensive coach that indicates that our line should approach the opposition when they run at them instead of waiting for them to get up speed before they make contact. Very disappointing for me.

There was a point in the first half where Gale picked up the ball in their 20 following a penalty,tapped and turned to pass but had to go to ground because all our players where 10 meters back in a big bunch