Re: Houghton : Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:50 pm  

berrigans bitch wrote:

That statement alone is enough for me to know you are indeed a fake!

A fake what ?? what do you want me to be sweetie??
However the story is all guff !! apart from the one his great long lost aunt fanny told you

Re: Houghton : Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:51 pm  

berrigans bitch wrote:

Not interested in name calling him (them!!)..but like I say I now know they are truly talking tripe

do you mean like
He is "going" from you
then even the man himselof says he isnt now THATS tripe

Re: Houghton : Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:54 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

Hooker is as important as the halves these days, see Cam smith as a perfect example of how to dictate a game.

naaa mate surely not , hookers are there these days to heel the ball arent they ???
only 1, 6,7,and 13 are the pivots.... maybe thats where roby ,Cunningham, Berrigan, so forth were going wrong as they thought they had a say in things

Re: Houghton : Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:08 pm  

Standee wrote:

You don't build a SL challenging team around a hooker.

Standee wrote:

I would say you build a great creative side around 1,6,7,13 and a great defensive side around 1,9,10,11.

The best example of a SL team largely building around their hooker is Saints with Kieron Cunningham. They have been the most consistent challengers of the entire SL era, and are always the most creative side.

Also, we played our most creative rugby in recent years when built a lot around Richard Swain.

Re: Houghton : Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:09 pm  

carl_spackler wrote:

The best example of a SL team largely building around their hooker is Saints with Kieron Cunningham. They have been the most consistent challengers of the entire SL era, and are always the most creative side.

Also, we played our most creative rugby in recent years when built a lot around Richard Swain.

Saints have had other creative players than Cunningham.

And Swain wasn't "creative", he milked penalties and was great at acting half with the first pass.

IMHO

Re: Houghton : Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:28 pm  

Standee wrote:

Saints have had other creative players than Cunningham.

And Swain wasn't "creative", he milked penalties and was great at acting half with the first pass.

IMHO

Who was saying that the hooker had to be the creative player? The question was whether or not a hooker was a player to build around. The distribution from dummy half is essential to be creative, without necessarily being where the creativity happens. The hookers have to lay the groundwork for the creative players to be able to produce, by providing the time and space they need.

The 2 examples I gave were not intended to be of 2 creative hookers, they simply display that building around a hooker who can consistently choose the right option from dummy half and distribute accurately is an essential part of building a good attacking side, not the defensive option you stated. In fact, if you look at the top 6 sides I think it's probably Wigan who are the least based around their hooker, and they are also the most defensive-based IMO.

Re: Houghton : Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:50 pm  

How did leeds win 3 GF's with diskin as hooker?

Re: Houghton : Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:29 pm  

I would be amazed if any club in the NRL wanted Danny Houghton.

Saying that, Michael Worrincy went over there......

Re: Houghton : Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:52 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

How did leeds win 3 GF's with diskin as hooker?

Stick him with Webb, McGuire, Burrow and Sinfield then you have your pivots. Saying that they replaced him with Buderus.

Re: Houghton : Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:02 am  

PAUL M wrote:

Stick him with Webb, McGuire, Burrow and Sinfield then you have your pivots. Saying that they replaced him with Buderus.

And they're worse. You saying diskin > buderus?