Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:59 pm  

Not the best Saturday afternoon I've ever had!
Pretty grim viewing.
I know it was his first game in awhile but Shaul was awful. Seems to have lost a yard of pace too.
Not many positives to be had from that really.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:04 pm  

Typical of us that we get Connor back from suspension next week and Gale will probably miss three or four weeks. What was he thinking? Definite red.

Thank goodness for the weather today as on a dry pitch Saints would have put at least fifty on us.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:14 pm  

scarrie wrote:

Not the best Saturday afternoon I've ever had!
Pretty grim viewing.
I know it was his first game in awhile but Shaul was awful. Seems to have lost a yard of pace too.
Not many positives to be had from that really.

Exactly that. If you'd said at the beginning the final scoreline with the personnel we had missing and Gale off for most of the game I'd have taken it, but the lack of organisation and inability to make yards was disappointing. Errors and penalties were never going to let us compete.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:17 pm  

"Errors and penalties" - seems to be the same mantra as last year...
They really do need to cut them out.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:36 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Not many positives, although Saints are top class, particularly their defence, it's brutal and two fantastic props. Unless they pick up a load of injuries, it's hard to see anyone stopping them.

Saints usually dominate 4 out of 5 tackles in a set and attack using their defence, example 2 mins to go and Lussick kicks down field and we kick chase, first one there is our prop and your player is pinned 3 metres from the line.

As for the brain fart with Gale it was all down to the contact, the disciplinary will probably agree to the red and it will be the intent that will decide if he gets a further suspension.

Connor is a big loss to your team he would have caused a lot more problems than Shaul and Reynolds doesn’t have enough desire at times to create and spoils instead.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:11 pm  

FC must have the slowest play the ball in rugby league. Saint’s line speed meant they were in our attacking line before the first pass making most spectators cry for offside and strangling any movement we could make. Down to 12 men for practically all the game meant our lads were knackered with the amount of tackling they did. BH really has to sort our indiscipline quickly. No point in getting Connor back next week, if we lose Wynne and Gale. I wasn’t a fan of Kendall today but will reserve judgment on him until I can watch the game back.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:24 pm  

MorningGlory23 wrote:

Please, he barely touched him

MorningGlory23 wrote:

Didn’t say he didn’t, lomax doesn’t go down like he’s be two footed and and need attention, gale doesn’t get sent off, lomax really strugglig, was sprinting about as soon as gales gone

Duke Eddington wrote:

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For those accusing Lomax of feigning injury and saying he was barely touched, brushed his thigh etc.

[Chris71]

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:26 pm  

Armavinit wrote:

FC must have the slowest play the ball in rugby league. Saint’s line speed meant they were in our attacking line before the first pass making most spectators cry for offside and strangling any movement we could make. Down to 12 men for practically all the game meant our lads were knackered with the amount of tackling they did. BH really has to sort our indiscipline quickly. No point in getting Connor back next week, if we lose Wynne and Gale. I wasn’t a fan of Kendall today but will reserve judgment on him until I can watch the game back.

Our line speed or rather the lack of it is as big a problem as our poor discipline. We still seem happy to just stand and wait in the defensive line giving the opposition metres without having to make any effort. Similarly the speed at which we ptb is so slow along with the speed we try to move the ball. These two things will cause us to have to put in far more effort defensively against average teams but against a team like St’s who play with much more intensity & speed you are never going to make any yards or stop them gaining. That today was as disappointing as anything as we just didn’t have any desire or intent. The only positive for me is we no longer have Radford as coach but I am seriously questioning if BH can improve us as the basics of the game from todays effort were shocking.

As for Kendall I thought he was poor generally and I’m still wondering what hull gave to do to get set restarts and in the crucial areas of the pitch. Kendall fir me certainly favoured St’s and gave the most of the decisions but we just didn’t help ourselves either with stupidity

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:38 pm  

A depleted team, a poor afternoon weatherise and the best visiting team in the game, but ......For us one of the worst first halves Ive seen in ages too much standing and waiting for the attacking players in our defensive line, so slow to play the ball, so much confusion in our attacking line, a captain who has a brain fart and gets sent off just when we needed him most, too many penalties conceded and for me at least a bad attitude at times. For years we have asked the question and for years it has been unanswered in that when will we get a Coach a captain or a senior player group or even a tea lady that can stop our constant stream of penalties conceded most of which are just plain brain dead efforts and which yet appear week in week out season in season out. And when will we get a defensive coach that indicates that our line should approach the opposition when they run at them instead of waiting for them to get up speed before they make contact. Very disappointing for me.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:42 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

Our line speed or rather the lack of it is as big a problem as our poor discipline. We still seem happy to just stand and wait in the defensive line giving the opposition metres without having to make any effort. Similarly the speed at which we ptb is so slow along with the speed we try to move the ball. These two things will cause us to have to put in far more effort defensively against average teams but against a team like St’s who play with much more intensity & speed you are never going to make any yards or stop them gaining. That today was as disappointing as anything as we just didn’t have any desire or intent. The only positive for me is we no longer have Radford as coach but I am seriously questioning if BH can improve us as the basics of the game from todays effort were shocking.

As for Kendall I thought he was poor generally and I’m still wondering what hull gave to do to get set restarts and in the crucial areas of the pitch. Kendall fir me certainly favoured St’s and gave the most of the decisions but we just didn’t help ourselves either with stupidity

A couple of Wembley wins and just missing out on OT twice in the semis was good but I suppose a relegation scrap might bring a different type of excitement.