Re: SL 2021 predictions : Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:27 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Still think we are short of an experienced front row.
Brown is now our first reserve.No doubt has a bright future and probably will feature regularly off the bench, but cant see Fash getting much of a look in this year and Masi has to step up.I hope he does otherwise it will be his last season with the club

Look at the other squads in SL, who else has nags of experienced cover in any position? All teams are needing to rely on youngsters.

We have 4 proven, good quality props (Taylor, Satae, Sao, Bowden). 1 hugely talented youngster (Brown), and 2 unspectacular but "will do a job" ones in Fash and Masi. You can also put Savelio there if we are struggling. I don't think we are too bad at prop at all.

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:56 pm  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

Look at the other squads in SL, who else has nags of experienced cover in any position? All teams are needing to rely on youngsters.

We have 4 proven, good quality props (Taylor, Satae, Sao, Bowden). 1 hugely talented youngster (Brown), and 2 unspectacular but "will do a job" ones in Fash and Masi. You can also put Savelio there if we are struggling. I don't think we are too bad at prop at all.

Its not the numbers but the impact they have when they play.
We only need two of the four proven props you mention to be injured and that leaves us very light on the bench when we need impact. and dont have the drop off we have seen,Thats why we need Masi to come good this season.

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:20 am  

bonaire wrote:

Its not the numbers but the impact they have when they play.
We only need two of the four proven props you mention to be injured and that leaves us very light on the bench when we need impact. and dont have the drop off we have seen,Thats why we need Masi to come good this season.

Which clubs have better props than us?

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:38 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Which clubs have better props than us?

Saints - Walmsley, Lees, Paasi, Amor, LMS
Wigan - Singleton, Bullock, Partington, Clubb, Byrne, Mitch Clark
Warrington - Hill, Cooper, Philbin, Akauola, Kibula, Doro
Catalans - Dudson, Bousquet, Kasiano....then struggling
Leeds - Oledzki, Prior, Tetevano, Holroyd
Castleford - Watts, Millington, Massey, Griffin, Daniel Smith, Matagi, Bienik
Wakefield - Fifita, Arona, Tanginoa, Battye, Green, Tangata,
Huddersfield - Yates, Lawrence, English, Gavet, Trout,
Salford - Mossop, Ikahihifo, Burke, Lussick, Luckley
HKR - Vete, Sims, King, Storton, Maher, Mustapha,
Leigh - Flower, Sidlow, Spencer, Ioane, Peteru

Hull - Taylor, Satae, Bowden, Sao, Brown, Matongo

I think our prop line-up is ok - we have big backs that also take over some workload. The other sides who I think can match up to our front row; Saints have some good props, Wigan don't have big names, but they play at a high level week in, week out and are aggressive. Cas only have 1 outstanding prop, but then some good experienced props

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:44 pm  

Nathan Peats rumoured to be signing for Leigh. That's a timely pre season boost for them if true.

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:50 pm  

Wilde 3 wrote:

Saints - Walmsley, Lees, Paasi, Amor, LMS
Wigan - Singleton, Bullock, Partington, Clubb, Byrne, Mitch Clark
Warrington - Hill, Cooper, Philbin, Akauola, Kibula, Doro
Catalans - Dudson, Bousquet, Kasiano....then struggling
Leeds - Oledzki, Prior, Tetevano, Holroyd
Castleford - Watts, Millington, Massey, Griffin, Daniel Smith, Matagi, Bienik
Wakefield - Fifita, Arona, Tanginoa, Battye, Green, Tangata,
Huddersfield - Yates, Lawrence, English, Gavet, Trout,
Salford - Mossop, Ikahihifo, Burke, Lussick, Luckley
HKR - Vete, Sims, King, Storton, Maher, Mustapha,
Leigh - Flower, Sidlow, Spencer, Ioane, Peteru

Hull - Taylor, Satae, Bowden, Sao, Brown, Matongo

I think our prop line-up is ok - we have big backs that also take over some workload. The other sides who I think can match up to our front row; Saints have some good props, Wigan don't have big names, but they play at a high level week in, week out and are aggressive. Cas only have 1 outstanding prop, but then some good experienced props

That can't be all of Leeds' props surely? Some people are actually tipping them to be top 3 this year

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:40 am  

I think we could finish as high as third if injuries and covid don't derail us, but given the squad size and lack of genuine pace in the side I would say 5th or 6th is more likely, with Saints and Wigan looking ominously strong, Warrington probably third and Leeds 4th. A season too early perhaps for Huddersfield and Cas will be lurking around 6th or 7th which will give Powell license to moan about something or other and blame everything or anyone other than himself for their lack of success.

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:22 pm  

Depending on Injurys, I think we l finish 4th, being a far better organised and structured team under Hodgson.

But questions over quality in squad depth, I think we've a strong 17, but beyond that I think we struggle for quality.
As somebody mentioned if we have 2 Injurys in the prop department the drop off in impact and metres made is huge.

I'd gladly take a steady 4th place, and hopefully Hodgson can continue to build HIS preferred team and add some more additions.

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:47 pm  

Rocknrolla69er wrote:

Depending on Injurys, I think we l finish 4th, being a far better organised and structured team under Hodgson.

But questions over quality in squad depth, I think we've a strong 17, but beyond that I think we struggle for quality.
As somebody mentioned if we have 2 Injurys in the prop department the drop off in impact and metres made is huge.

I'd gladly take a steady 4th place, and hopefully Hodgson can continue to build HIS preferred team and add some more additions.

Front row must still be a concern as Hodgson admitted the club discussed Remi Casty as an option
Now Powell is leaving Cas someone should get Liam Watts to do something daft off the field so Cas release him and we get him back cheap.

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:24 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Front row must still be a concern as Hodgson admitted the club discussed Remi Casty as an option
Now Powell is leaving Cas someone should get Liam Watts to do something daft off the field so Cas release him and we get him back cheap.

Remi Casty, well well .....