Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:29 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Made me feel good about our position.
I can't see them being above us in the IMG score without a lot of investment pretty quickly.

Been to a grand final though. That will count for something

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Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:49 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

Been to a grand final though. That will count for something

You only get points for winning and it was too long ago anyway.

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Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:51 pm  

Saints have all the GF points sewn up from the top flight.

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:46 pm  

All clubs have a season to put together their plans including Castleford to gain enough points to get into or stay in SL. We like every other club know what is required therefore whatever the outcome is down entirely to whoever is running the club.
We have to accept that we were the worst team and deserve to be relegated and nothing going to change this. They will not be a 14 team SL next season and Castleford will not be demoted.

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Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:48 pm  

They need to get a move on.
At the moment, on a brief look through, they are looking at 9.5 points.
They lose out big time in finance and stadium.
They need to hit that minimum criteria in "Plan B" as they leave some serious points on the table with that.

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:17 am  

dboy wrote:

From the WMDC Planning Portal - submission from Eastwood's on behalf of the developer.:

"In order to raise finished floor levels above the maximum flood level should defences fail, approximately 1.5 m of raising would be required. This would result in the development failing to meet accessibility criteria and lead to an increase in flood risk elsewhere.

In addition, raising of finished floor levels would require the creation of new compensatory voids to accommodate the displaced volume of flooding. If this were to be included on the site it would result in the significant de-scoping of the major upgrades provided (such as removal of the training pitch, loss of car parking and removal of the fan zone) thereby undermining the principle of the proposals to provide upgraded stadium and training facilities. Having the fans seated at a higher level would undermine the intimate atmosphere of the historic stadium, one of the features it is famous and valued for.

Raising finished floor levels would also raise construction costs which have been carefully assessed to provide the maximum benefits and to meet the Superleague stadium criteria. Any increase in construction costs would mean that the other upgrades to the facilities would need to be descoped resulting in Wheldon Road failing to meet the required stadium standards. Raising of finished floor levels is therefore deemed unviable."

So are the.other documents submitted on the 14th in relation to the axiom development or the cas development?

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:30 am  

Why not let CAS play on the Wakefield ground Just getting peeved of with the so called people in charge ( We all know they are so far up the so called big clubs backside) most play at a football ground even Magic Weekend is at a football ground .Just want nice grounds to show a false picture of the state of S L when on TV ,and they are going out of there way to make it easier for the big clubs to keep winning things ,and destroying the heart of the R L M62 corridors .Clubs should not lose S L because they have no big backed

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:01 am  

dboy wrote:

From the WMDC Planning Portal - submission from Eastwood's on behalf of the developer.:

"In order to raise finished floor levels above the maximum flood level should defences fail, approximately 1.5 m of raising would be required. This would result in the development failing to meet accessibility criteria and lead to an increase in flood risk elsewhere.

In addition, raising of finished floor levels would require the creation of new compensatory voids to accommodate the displaced volume of flooding. If this were to be included on the site it would result in the significant de-scoping of the major upgrades provided (such as removal of the training pitch, loss of car parking and removal of the fan zone) thereby undermining the principle of the proposals to provide upgraded stadium and training facilities. Having the fans seated at a higher level would undermine the intimate atmosphere of the historic stadium, one of the features it is famous and valued for.

Raising finished floor levels would also raise construction costs which have been carefully assessed to provide the maximum benefits and to meet the Superleague stadium criteria. Any increase in construction costs would mean that the other upgrades to the facilities would need to be descoped resulting in Wheldon Road failing to meet the required stadium standards. Raising of finished floor levels is therefore deemed unviable."

Did you see this on the last page of that report?
My guess is that, the redevelopment will go ahead.

Summary
The proposed site has been shown to be capable of adequately accommodating all the floodplain storage provided in its current arrangement. This has been achieved by minor adjustments to the proposed 4g pitch

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:03 am  

Hard right now to judge what our squad will look like next year.

Provided the takeover does go ahead, Ellis may have different ideas to coaching staff and players that our current mindset is at.

Also, I would think teams will be ahead of us in terms of recruitment for next year

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:31 am  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote:

Did you see this on the last page of that report?
My guess is that, the redevelopment will go ahead.

Summary
The proposed site has been shown to be capable of adequately accommodating all the floodplain storage provided in its current arrangement. This has been achieved by minor adjustments to the proposed 4g pitch

What was discussed in the face to face meeting they had will be key. If as i expect the EA now remove their objection and replace it with recommendations then i’d expect it to get waved through.