Re: Club statement : Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:43 pm  

An amateurish response from the club that - something akin to getting out of your car after a ding and saying "Sorry - totally my fault!"

If the club has received complaints but no investigation has yet taken place, the statement should be, "We've been notified of some concerns by visiting supporters which we are now looking into and, if proven to be true, we will take swift and robust action. We welcome visiting supporters at BV and take any complaints very seriously etc etc.."

As it stands, I would suggest that following a Facebook campaign to take over the North Stand, some Bradford fans came with their drum and trumpet, all full of mickey and wind, with an expectation that they would outplay us, outsing us, and go home with bragging rights; as things quickly unravelled for them, the back and forth chanting took on a different tone and a few who couldn't handle their disappointment have decided to manufacture some complaints as a parting shot. We should *not* be admitting any liability for that until it's been investigated - as I'm 100% certain that there were shots fired on both sides.

As for meast and his rabid whipping up of an imaginary problem at BV; it's all a bit pathetic really. Every single club in SL has a small selection of idiots - as does every single gathering of people at any event ever, anywhere in the country; whilst it's true that violence, dangerous behaviour or discriminatory language should be dealt with, it's also important to remember that being offended is a very subjective thing - if I complained every time I was offended by something, I'd be like meast - a rather pathetic and sorry figure, with nothing of any real substance to say, whom nobody takes seriously.

[Wildthing]

Re: Club statement : Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:11 pm  

bren2k wrote:

An amateurish response from the club that - something akin to getting out of your car after a ding and saying "Sorry - totally my fault!"

If the club has received complaints but no investigation has yet taken place, the statement should be, "We've been notified of some concerns by visiting supporters which we are now looking into and, if proven to be true, we will take swift and robust action. We welcome visiting supporters at BV and take any complaints very seriously etc etc.."

As it stands, I would suggest that following a Facebook campaign to take over the North Stand, some Bradford fans came with their drum and trumpet, all full of mickey and wind, with an expectation that they would outplay us, outsing us, and go home with bragging rights; as things quickly unravelled for them, the back and forth chanting took on a different tone and a few who couldn't handle their disappointment have decided to manufacture some complaints as a parting shot. We should *not* be admitting any liability for that until it's been investigated - as I'm 100% certain that there were shots fired on both sides.

As for meast and his rabid whipping up of an imaginary problem at BV; it's all a bit pathetic really. Every single club in SL has a small selection of idiots - as does every single gathering of people at any event ever, anywhere in the country; whilst it's true that violence, dangerous behaviour or discriminatory language should be dealt with, it's also important to remember that being offended is a very subjective thing - if I complained every time I was offended by something, I'd be like meast - a rather pathetic and sorry figure, with nothing of any real substance to say, whom nobody takes seriously.

Perfectly put. I ca't add anything to that.

Re: Club statement : Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:17 pm  

If the Bradford fans think it was bad on Saturday why don't they watch Bradford City and try standing in the home section at Millwall!

Re: Club statement : Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:24 pm  

chissitt wrote:

If you bought a ticket from your club shop for any of the above mentioned clubs, only Bradford and Castleford would allow you to go anywhere in the ground, the rest of them would allow you access only to the part of the ground your ticket permits, therefore your story that they can mix freely is a myth and makes them segregated, perhaps if you and more of your faithful visited these away grounds more often you might realise this HTH

Think you're wrong regarding Cas Chissitt, as far as I'm aware the Wheldon road stand is Cas fans only, they have to buy a specific season ticket to stand in there.

Re: Club statement : Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:40 pm  

JINJER wrote:

Think you're wrong regarding Cas Chissitt, as far as I'm aware the Wheldon road stand is Cas fans only, they have to buy a specific season ticket to stand in there.

You might be right now I'm sure somebody will tell us, but I can remember going in there in the second half to see all the tries 3 or 4 years ago.

Re: Club statement : Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:21 pm  

JINJER wrote:

Think you're wrong regarding Cas Chissitt, as far as I'm aware the Wheldon road stand is Cas fans only, they have to buy a specific season ticket to stand in there.

No, they tried it for one season when Steve Ferres was in charge. With your season ticket you got a fob which you swiped at the WR turnstiles but it cost a fortune to install and run and wasn't exactly foolproof.

Re: Club statement : Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:30 pm  

Tigerade wrote:

You forgot to mention the flare throwing incedent at Wheldon Road this year Vasty.

Because it's not relevant, I'm not denying our idiots just pointing out that all the clubs he mentioned have them also.

Re: Club statement : Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:41 pm  

bren2k wrote:

An amateurish response from the club that - something akin to getting out of your car after a ding and saying "Sorry - totally my fault!"

If the club has received complaints but no investigation has yet taken place, the statement should be, "We've been notified of some concerns by visiting supporters which we are now looking into and, if proven to be true, we will take swift and robust action. We welcome visiting supporters at BV and take any complaints very seriously etc etc.."

As it stands, I would suggest that following a Facebook campaign to take over the North Stand, some Bradford fans came with their drum and trumpet, all full of mickey and wind, with an expectation that they would outplay us, outsing us, and go home with bragging rights; as things quickly unravelled for them, the back and forth chanting took on a different tone and a few who couldn't handle their disappointment have decided to manufacture some complaints as a parting shot. We should *not* be admitting any liability for that until it's been investigated - as I'm 100% certain that there were shots fired on both sides.

As for meast and his rabid whipping up of an imaginary problem at BV; it's all a bit pathetic really. Every single club in SL has a small selection of idiots - as does every single gathering of people at any event ever, anywhere in the country; whilst it's true that violence, dangerous behaviour or discriminatory language should be dealt with, it's also important to remember that being offended is a very subjective thing - if I complained every time I was offended by something, I'd be like meast - a rather pathetic and sorry figure, with nothing of any real substance to say, whom nobody takes seriously.

Well put sir.

This is what so frustrates me with Carter and his angry dad routine. He seems to be totally devoid of any ability to exude positivity. It's as if Willzay has become the CEO which I suspect even he doesn’t think is a good idea.

For heavens sake Carter stop treating the fans like they are a group of peasants whom you are obliged to let into your ground who you assume are always in the wrong.

Unlike my mate Jack in the box I don’t feel for the club on this one as so much of it is of their own making.

If Carter is that bothered why not stop the sale of alcohol at the ground or get our ever zealous stewards to stop stripping sober fans of coke bottle and stop clearly drunk fans entering the ground. Or does MC’s moral outrage stop at losing beer sales - sums it up to me.

Re: Club statement : Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:56 pm  

From time immemorial away supporters would congregate on the northern terrace, some like to watch the game from behind the sticks, maybe because you can actually see what’s going on for the full eighty.

There has always been fracas as long as I can remember. But maybe now in our perfect world, it’s no longer acceptable, or the little spats have become much more menacing.

Whichever it is, the time has come to put the away fans on the western terrace, denying them the option of watching from behind the sticks whilst also preventing the home fans of watching the game where some have stood for fifty plus years.

[Bullseye]

Re: Club statement : Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:01 pm  

Never saw any bother from where I was stood on the halfway line.

Sounds like a storm in a teacup mainly with a minority of d1cks on both sides.