Re: Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:54 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Does serving notice to quit have any effect on this clause ?

No, it is a planning clause, not a contractual one. To develop Belle Vue for housing, you would need to get it removed, plain and simple. To do that, as Sandal Cat points out, is by no means certain and will be time consuming and costly. Also, and lets be clear here, the club don't want to move, they just want to pay a fairer rental value and that is what they have already offered to do and still hope will happen.

I would be very, very surprised if a new lease deal is not agreed in the coming fee weeks, which will see all getting something out of it, maybe not what they had before, but still better than the alternatives for all parties!

Re: Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:57 pm  

Inflatable_Armadillo wrote:

No, it is a planning clause, not a contractual one. To develop Belle Vue for housing, you would need to get it removed, plain and simple. To do that, as Sandal Cat points out, is by no means certain and will be time consuming and costly. Also, and lets be clear here, the club don't want to move, they just want to pay a fairer rental value and that is what they have already offered to do and still hope will happen.

I would be very, very surprised if a new lease deal is not agreed in the coming fee weeks, which will see all getting something out of it, maybe not what they had before, but still better than the alternatives for all parties!

Interesting stuff Armadillo !

That makes it sound as though we are holding the proverbial "royal flush"

Re: Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:30 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Does serving notice to quit have any effect on this clause ?

I-A has answered your question but please note that the condition was put in an earlier planning consent and amended to the current condition when the planning consent was renewed to reflect the fact that Newmarket was going to built following the Public Inquiry and the SoS's approval.

The condition was intended to ensure that Wakefield Trinty had a home of its own in which to play before BV could be developed. If we have moved away because of the rent issue we still have not a home of our own and so the condition still applies, even more so now as it specifically refers to Newmarket.

Re: Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:06 pm  

i still believe that the Community Stadium will happen but more like the basic 8k option we suggested to York court and WMDC rather than the 12k plans we got promised at first, but you never know what might happen.

Re: Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:08 am  

M62 J30 TRINITY wrote:

i still believe that the Community Stadium will happen but more like the basic 8k option we suggested to York court and WMDC rather than the 12k plans we got promised at first, but you never know what might happen.

I would like to still believe that the stadium will still be built, but where do you think the funds are going to come from to build it in any form?.
I would love to be proved wrong on this but at the moment I don't see it happening.

Re: Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:48 am  

The location of the stadiums the main issue for me. Im not convinced it will be as popular as many of you think. Yes it would be a nice clean environment but that's it. If Wakefield council had anything about them they would make the pugneys a sporting village. It screams out to lend its self to the right kind of development. I wonder what the incomes been from parking since the council introduced it.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:42 am  

I've never quite got the location argument? Newmarket, right at the side of the motorway and off a main road out of the city centre is spot on.

I've lived in Netherton and Outwood the majority of my life and getting to Belle Vue is not exactly easy, especially on the odd occasion we get a decent crowd.

Back in the days when everyone came on the bus/train, fair enough, but I bet its a good 80/90% that now drive to games. Donny Rd used to be full of people walking up to the ground. Nowadays you would have all on to know there was a game on.

Re: Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:12 am  

lampyboy wrote:

The location of the stadiums the main issue for me. Im not convinced it will be as popular as many of you think. Yes it would be a nice clean environment but that's it. If Wakefield council had anything about them they would make the pugneys a sporting village. It screams out to lend its self to the right kind of development. I wonder what the incomes been from parking since the council introduced it.

Agreed. Sadly now it seems its that or nothing and its probably the latter.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:19 am  

Pound 4 Wrighty wrote:

I've never quite got the location argument? Newmarket, right at the side of the motorway and off a main road out of the city centre is spot on.

I've lived in Netherton and Outwood the majority of my life and getting to Belle Vue is not exactly easy, especially on the odd occasion we get a decent crowd.

Back in the days when everyone came on the bus/train, fair enough, but I bet its a good 80/90% that now drive to games. Donny Rd used to be full of people walking up to the ground. Nowadays you would have all on to know there was a game on.

A better judge is how many walk away from the after the final hooter and there is plenty. Remember the people who do drive there don't currently pay to park, this wouldn't be the case at Newmarket where its the official car park or nothing due to a parking exclusion zone around the ground on match day as part of the planning permission. Making it more expensive for people to go to the game won't help boost attendances.

Re: Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:19 pm  

I can totally understand all the disappointment regarding our new stadium plans. its see a life time ago we had Durkar and Wakey park on the go. I have seen the Colchester United stadium develop over the years from construction to the present day and a whole new range of developments have been built around it. Its located just off the A12 and the council have granted permission for a park and ride facility, a number of restaurants, service area and a hotel. Any new ground would need to entice people to visit make the day an event. I hope im wrong but I don't see that being achieved on an industrial estate.