Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:30 pm  

TRB wrote:

For those who say we have nothing, I repeat again:

We have a site with PP
We have an agreement that states we get a stadium in return for PP
We hope to have ACV status in BV shortly

We don't have any money just now, but we have a great mentor in Sir Rodney, we are working closely with the club, we believe the council are under some pressure to assist and we can cause delays, if not rejections, on NM should we need to.

Out of interest is the developments planning permission full or still at a lower grade at this point?

If the section 106 isn't legally binding then there isn't actually an agreement though is there? It's not actually worth the paper it is written on. What there really is a perceived attempt to have the wool pulled over peoples eyes (including the s.o.s) which may take a legal battle to resolve. Costly and time consuming for everyone.

All the ACV will really achieve is buy 6 months of time if the bank wants to sell. Have they indicated that it is going to be put up for sale anytime soon? As if so then time on this really is of the essence and it being a 'few months' before any info comes to light may be too long. And if covenant on Belle Vue has been confirmed in place by the council anyway what difference does it make if NM is the No.1 target anyway? We cannot be kicked out in the meantime. Another reason why I would urge making a decision one way or other on which scheme is wanted and go for it. My call would be BV but the people closer to the workings would have to make that decision.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:51 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

The point I'm making is that sports provision is poor, not none existant, it's very poor in comparison with other Cities, Towns and even smaller communities than that.

Why am I making this point,
Because Peter Box, despite Wakefield's poor sports provision, thinks it's not important enough to take his time up. He seems to think that Wakefield as a community can afford to have him, the Council Leader, shrug his shoulders and say "not my problem" in relation to YCPs wriggling out of their obligations.

That's my main point!

Think we can agree on the point about the 'esteemed' Mr Box. I don't expect the council to be throwing money around on sporting development at this current time but i don't understand his reticence to support the scheme and help get the development built when it is going to cost the authority zilch? Unless of course, knowing it will also likely end up at Eric Pickles door, its success would impact on the hope of another club getting their own scheme built just down the road......

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:07 pm  

I was never in favour of Newmarket. Too far from where most supporters live. It may have resulted in a slight increase in away support due to easy access but we were falling in to the same trap as Salford who have alienated a lot of home support so crowds have been underwhelming despite megabucks spent on the team It's Belle Vue or the end of Trinity as far as I am concerned. Hence I was one of the first to sign the e petition.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:54 pm  

ball-in-hand wrote:

I was never in favour of Newmarket. Too far from where most supporters live. It may have resulted in a slight increase in away support due to easy access but we were falling in to the same trap as Salford who have alienated a lot of home support so crowds have been underwhelming despite megabucks spent on the team It's Belle Vue or the end of Trinity as far as I am concerned. Hence I was one of the first to sign the e petition.

Just a small point of order here.

Although the access at Salford is horrendous, they have just about doubled their attendances at their new ground.
Ok' there are other factors as to why their crowds have grown but, although a new ground would take some getting used to,
it would be a massive improvement on what we currently have at BV.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:23 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Just a small point of order here.

Although the access at Salford is horrendous, they have just about doubled their attendances at their new ground.
Ok' there are other factors as to why their crowds have grown but, although a new ground would take some getting used to,
it would be a massive improvement on what we currently have at BV.

Well I dont agree with you, gates have not got much better at all.At the willows they were getting three and half don't see much more

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:56 pm  

bazzo44 wrote:

Well I dont agree with you, gates have not got much better at all.At the willows they were getting three and half don't see much more

Wouldn't mind betting that any extra fans at the AJ Bell stadium are away supporters what find it far more access'able, especially Wire fans'.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:03 pm  

chissitt wrote:

Wouldn't mind betting that any extra fans at the AJ Bell stadium are away supporters what find it far more access'able, especially Wire fans'.

Spot on old lad

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:28 pm  

chissitt wrote:

Wouldn't mind betting that any extra fans at the AJ Bell stadium are away supporters what find it far more access'able, especially Wire fans'.

That and the major investment of cash they got at the same time leading to some big name signings joining. That spiked interest and boosted their ticket sales. Without that influx i reckon the crowds would have been down.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:33 pm  

It's a shame Trinity didn't/couldn't get in on the massive regeneration of eastern Wakefield that is City Fields. I reckon the development is crying out for a show piece item such as a new stadium.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:33 pm  

bazzo44 wrote:

Well I dont agree with you, gates have not got much better at all.At the willows they were getting three and half don't see much more

Just had a quick look to see if they have gone up or not. This year at the new stadium they averaged 4587, the year before 3178 and the first year 5,666. In 2009 at the Willows they averaged 4,467, 2010 4,166 and the final year of there 4563. They had a boost in that first year at the new stadium but then had those financial difficulties and this year it's around what it was at the Willows. Small sample size mind.