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Re: Championship : Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:59 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

About half of the championship clubs have a stadium which on the face of it are better than ours is currently, and of the super league clubs there's probably only Cas which is worse than ours, there's also some better grounds than ours in C1.

Realistically looking at it, we've probably got around the 18-20th best stadium even with the new stand

I can't remember how many times I've had to explain this.
It is part of the criteria. It won't saves us on it's own but if we didn't have it we'd be even further away.
And it potentially makes money which many of those stadiums do not.

Re: Championship : Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:17 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I can't remember how many times I've had to explain this.
It is part of the criteria. It won't saves us on it's own but if we didn't have it we'd be even further away.
And it potentially makes money which many of those stadiums do not.

You're right, it is part of the criteria, but given about 20 clubs will score higher than us on it, it's probably not a big swing factor. Too many fans who are up the backside of the board seem to think we've developed the greatest stadium in the world

What would save us though is investment in the team to secure a higher league position, and investment in the fans so that they increase the fanbase both online and in person - but the club don't seem interested in doing that, or if they are, have spectacularly failed to do so and have instead left a divided and dissolutioned fanbase which is getting smaller and smaller

Re: Championship : Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:34 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

You're right, it is part of the criteria, but given about 20 clubs will score higher than us on it, it's probably not a big swing factor. Too many fans who are up the backside of the board seem to think we've developed the greatest stadium in the world

What would save us though is investment in the team to secure a higher league position, and investment in the fans so that they increase the fanbase both online and in person - but the club don't seem interested in doing that, or if they are, have spectacularly failed to do so and have instead left a divided and dissolutioned fanbase which is getting smaller and smaller

you are arguing with people with agendas

Re: Championship : Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:47 pm  

That's tickled me mopsey. In reality we all have agendas. Some people act on their agenda so at least are doing something rightly or wrongly. We know your agenda but seem unable to answer one simple question, you know the datebut obviously evading answering.

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Re: Championship : Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:50 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

You're right, it is part of the criteria, but given about 20 clubs will score higher than us on it, it's probably not a big swing factor. Too many fans who are up the backside of the board seem to think we've developed the greatest stadium in the world

What would save us though is investment in the team to secure a higher league position, and investment in the fans so that they increase the fanbase both online and in person - but the club don't seem interested in doing that, or if they are, have spectacularly failed to do so and have instead left a divided and dissolutioned fanbase which is getting smaller and smaller

Investment in fans?

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Re: Championship : Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:15 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

You're right, it is part of the criteria, but given about 20 clubs will score higher than us on it, it's probably not a big swing factor. Too many fans who are up the backside of the board seem to think we've developed the greatest stadium in the world

What would save us though is investment in the team to secure a higher league position, and investment in the fans so that they increase the fanbase both online and in person - but the club don't seem interested in doing that, or if they are, have spectacularly failed to do so and have instead left a divided and dissolutioned fanbase which is getting smaller and smaller

Because of the way the score is worked out, we would have to finish lower than 4th to impact the points in the grading for performance as its done over a 3 year average.
The stadium would impact immediately and the floodlights and screen alone would be equivalent to us finishing 3 places higher ( consistently over 3 years)
The new stand adds to the score for stadium 3, finances for income outside funding and balance sheet which would be 3 of the 5 finance points and I guess attendance as we were having to reduce attendance but playing in Championship will reduce that again....however, if we stay above average 3k crowd we don't lose points compared to what we had in SL because of the grouping.

So like it or not, that stand and stadium redevelopment is more valuable than staying in Super League this year.
Of course it would have been nice to do both.

Re: Championship : Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:25 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

You're right, it is part of the criteria, but given about 20 clubs will score higher than us on it, it's probably not a big swing factor. Too many fans who are up the backside of the board seem to think we've developed the greatest stadium in the world

What would save us though is investment in the team to secure a higher league position, and investment in the fans so that they increase the fanbase both online and in person - but the club don't seem interested in doing that, or if they are, have spectacularly failed to do so and have instead left a divided and dissolutioned fanbase which is getting smaller and smaller

By the statement ( up the backside ) do you means fans who turn out every week home and away or those keyboard warriors that sit at home and spew vile nonsense on a regular basis but don’t go to games . I’ll hold my hand up I’m in the former camp , I backed my club , not happy with lots of things but what choice did we have , don’t go and let the club fold . Hopefully now things will change for the good both on and off the field

Re: Championship : Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:28 pm  

What about the catchment area weighting because next season we will be of the three, outside SL.

Re: Championship : Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:34 pm  

Trin e ti wrote:

That's tickled me mopsey. In reality we all have agendas. Some people act on their agenda so at least are doing something rightly or wrongly. We know your agenda but seem unable to answer one simple question, you know the datebut obviously evading answering.

I don't after evade but I certainly don't dance to anyone's tunes especially grovellers to this regime. When there's a clear cut off between the old regime and the new it will be announced. A clean break and a line drawn under this lot and and a brighter future.

Re: Championship : Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:46 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Investment in fans?

Yes, investment in fans. Building the fanbase is the first criteria under IMG but the club are going backwards in this area with less and less fans turning up to the games or engaging with them on social media. It takes investment from the club to build this up both in terms of better marketing, better social media management, to providing a better fan environment at the games. Some of that is done by investing in the team so that people will enjoy their visit, and some of it is building on the wider match day experience. Just selling beer and bovril from a shed like in the 1970's doesn't cut it any more.