Re: Not so saintly..... : Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:21 pm  

Fishermanscap wrote:

The morality of it isn’t the point, the point is we had our chance.

Well no, the point is have Saints broken any rules

Re: Not so saintly..... : Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:26 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

Regular SL players in red

Welsby; Swift, Costello, Simm, Grace; Paulo, Richardson; McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Smith, Lees, Batchelor, Bentley, Knowles.

Replacements: Amor, Ashworth, Eaves, Hazzard.

I make it 11 SL players who’ve played regularly or have masses of SL experience. No where near as drastic as some are making out!

I think i'd take issue with Swift, Lees and Bentley as 'regulars.'

Re: Not so saintly..... : Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:41 pm  

Well in my eyes it just shows how low this club has sunk! The fact that we are even interested in what other teams are doing in order to save our skin is quite sad

Re: Not so saintly..... : Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:42 pm  

Prince Buster wrote:

Well in my eyes it just shows how low this club has sunk! The fact that we are even interested in what other teams are doing in order to save our skin is quite sad

Yep still some people who think the players are above criticism despite how bad they play/effort some of them put in

Re: Not so saintly..... : Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:52 pm  

Wildmoggy wrote:

I think i'd take issue with Swift, Lees and Bentley as 'regulars.'

Swift has played 128 games and on average scores a try every 2nd game

Matty Lees at just 21 years old has played something like 44 games in SL

James Bentley has played in 12 of Sts SL games this year

I’d say they’re all pretty well established as SL players and/or regulars in the Saints team

Re: Not so saintly..... : Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:59 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

Swift has played 128 games and on average scores a try every 2nd game

Matty Lees at just 21 years old has played something like 44 games in SL

James Bentley has played in 12 of Sts SL games this year

I’d say they’re all pretty well established as SL players and/or regulars in the Saints team

Yep, Swift was a regular until Grace came along, Bentley seems to play when Roby is missing.......

Re: Not so saintly..... : Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:15 pm  

I've just gone on the Saints website, and all of those young lads that played today have squad numbers and are part of the first team squad.......no breaking of RFL rules St Helens, we and everyone else just gonna have to cop it sweet..........

Re: Not so saintly..... : Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:08 am  

It leaves something of a sour taste, given that they've practically handed London the 2 points during a really tight relegation battle; and all in prep for the mighty Halifax...

That said - they have operated within the rules and Holbrook is perfectly entitled to manage his squad exactly the way he sees fit; the relegation dogfight is none of his concern, because they've won enough games for it not to be. We have only ourselves, and some unlucky injuries, to blame.

Re: Not so saintly..... : Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:34 am  

Prince Buster wrote:

Well in my eyes it just shows how low this club has sunk! The fact that we are even interested in what other teams are doing in order to save our skin is quite sad

As we are heavily involved in a relegation battle, its natural to be interested in the fixtures of the other clubs around us, just as we would be if Trinity were battling for a play off spot and in fairness, the fielding of a weakened side against a title rival would hold just as much interest if we were at the other end of the table.
IF another club gifted any club 2 points, to allow them to secure the title, avoid the drop, win a trophy it would be deemed wrong, whether it was "within the rules" or not.
I do agree that Trinity have sunk like concrete in a swimming pool but, that isn't really the issue.
If we were safe in mid table or, challenging for the title, their (Saints) actions wouldn't be any more "right" than they were yesterday.

Personally, I made a few quid out of it but, again, that isn't the point.

Re: Not so saintly..... : Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:49 am  

Prince Buster wrote:

Well in my eyes it just shows how low this club has sunk! The fact that we are even interested in what other teams are doing in order to save our skin is quite sad

And quite embarrassing