Re: Even more betting here : Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:24 pm  

What happens when the stake is halved though, do the bookies keep the other half for themselves?

Re: Even more betting here : Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:36 pm  

the stake isnt halved, the odds are halved
you get your stake back and half the winnings you would get for an outright win

Re: Even more betting here : Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:03 pm  

Hopie wrote:

the stake isnt halved, the odds are halved
you get your stake back and half the winnings you would get for an outright win

Sadly your wrong...

The stake is halved not the odds, as it works in the bookies favour and yes Andym, the bookies keep the other half too.

So for example.. £20 at 4/1, which dead heats.

At half stake you get £10 at 4/1 = £50

At half odds you get £20 at 2/1 = £60

Hence the bookmakers use the half stake rule as it is in their favour along with many other rules...

Re: Even more betting here : Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:13 am  

andym1988 wrote:

So if I had twenty quid on Rio De La Plata at the sp 5/2, due to the dead heat and my stake being slashed to a tenner,

I would only receive thirty five back?

Spot on.

I use the returns calcs to work out the returns as they can account for a DH or R4

Re: Even more betting here : Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:12 am  

Galway 19:00 Mount Helicon 20/1 E/W Ballyhaunis 14/1 E/W

Had been waiting for Mount Helicon to run for a while then bloody missed it just come 2nd at 6/1 in its first race for 7 months hopefully will come on from that only 5yo and came 4th in French G2 and G3 races.

Ballyhaunis hadn't race for even longer when finish 9 lengths behind Bay Willow who boosted the form yesterday.

Re: Even more betting here : Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:25 am  

I'm going to Beverley races tomorrow, so who's got a few tips?

Re: Even more betting here : Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:53 pm  

Smiggs wrote:

I'm going to Beverley races tomorrow, so who's got a few tips?

Bloke I work with drinks with the head honcho for ladcrooks. He came in.this morning with a tip he was given over the weekend. Dubai glory Ithink it was called. 1st race its in dunno price etc but u might want to give it a look.

Re: Even more betting here : Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:50 pm  

Does anyone else expect not to see Workforce run again?

The Derby has obviously taken a lot out of him, as with a majority of other horses. Another bad run would knock his stud value down even further and, unless he wins a top all age race, it will hit his reputation badly.

Not as if Khalid Abdulla is short of good racehorses either.

Re: Even more betting here : Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:01 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

Galway 19:00 Mount Helicon 20/1 E/W Ballyhaunis 14/1 E/W

Had been waiting for Mount Helicon to run for a while then bloody missed it just come 2nd at 6/1 in its first race for 7 months hopefully will come on from that only 5yo and came 4th in French G2 and G3 races.

Ballyhaunis hadn't race for even longer when finish 9 lengths behind Bay Willow who boosted the form yesterday.

Mount Helicon would be a cracking bet, but not off top weight for me.

Re: Even more betting here : Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:06 pm  

Foooking hell 2nd and maybe 3rd Ballyhaunis smashed into 11/2!