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Re: More football chat : Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:37 pm  
Saturday was a great day for us.

Such a sweet victory against City, went absolutely mental. The black eye I got from someone celebrating was worth it. :)

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I don't know when it happened. I can't even remember how much of the game I watched.


It was halfway through the first half. I didn't see it at the time, but when I've seen it back I thought the ref was going to send him off TBH.

Hopefully we can get another victory against Spurs to keep the pressure on Chelsea - I think we play before Chelsea do, I cannot believe we're still in with a chance of winning it this season, I thought we'd ballsed it up ages ago. Still, Mr William Hill was very nice to me on Friday and offered me 6/1 on United to win the title.
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Re: More football chat : Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:12 pm  
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The two Utd players seem to get along so I'm guessing Fletcher got his mates permission to take her out.


SCOTLAND captain Darren Fletcher has bought a pounds 2000 diamond ring for his secret lover - his best friend's ex-girlfriend. The Manchester United midfielder has kept his relationship with 20-year-old student Hayley Grice under wraps as she used to date his team-mate John O'Shea.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_7 ... n37287484/

Clearly JT fancied a bit on the side and just wanted to get his end away. I really don't think the two can be compared.


But the outrage over JT isn't the fact he cheated on his wife - practically every single England captain that's ever worn the armband has done that - it's because he was screwing his ex-team mates ex girlfriend.

On the Mikel penalty, yes Bale is heading away from goal but Mikel would have to have some seriously dodgy shaped feet to have played that ball out at the angle it went out. Mikel definitely made contact with Bale and as such it is a penalty in my eyes.


Mikel wouldn't need dodgy shaped feet. He'd just need to toe-poke the ball.

It was a challenge where it was inconclusive who won the ball. Bale was going down before he even went into the challenge. That's not a stonewall penalty. It's a possible penalty that sometimes you get, sometimes you don't. If you're running the ball out of play and make it clear you're totally willing to go down then you generally don't get these calls.

I believe I saw the Drogba one on SSN after the game.


I've said this before. I watched the game live. When the incident happened I held my breath because I thought Drogba may have handled it. But no mention of it was made by the commentators and they just said that Davies had won the header. I just kind of forgot about the incident and marked it down as one of those times when you think you see something because of the angle, but didn't actually occur.

Just as the second half commenced the commentator said that Coyle was peed off because they should have had a pen in the first half. They then showed the incident, which clearly showed Drogba hitting the ball back with his arm. On the second showing they show one Bolton player raising his arms in appeal.

So no appeal from 10 Bolton players, including Kevin Davies who was involved. No appeal from the 50 Bolton fans in the ground. No appeal from the Bolton bench. No mention of it from the commentary team. No hint from the Sky production team that there was just a penalty incident. No hint from the Chelsea players that they'd possibly got away with a pen against them. No reaction from the Chelsea supporters that they'd just got away with a penalty decision.

But the ref and lino should have seen what 40,000 people didn't?

For me I'm never that bothered about penalty decisions that go against us that I didn't see. Against Inter I never saw the Inter defenders wrestling our players to the ground at the two corners, so I'm not going to get angry over the ref missing it too.

Coyle whined after the game about the two pens they should have had. IMO the lino was spot on with the decision that Terry played the second one with his chest. Everyone from Bolton claimed that one (and I thought it was a pen at the time) but the lino was adamant that it was the chest.

For the Bolton handball it was a bouncing ball that hit the hand of the Bolton defender. The Chelsea crowd screamed for it, I think Drogba claimed for it. The commentators summed it up as "You're not getting then pen when Bolton didn't get any their way for their two shouts."

After the game Coyle whines about being robbed off their two pens. No mention of all at the pen Chelsea should have had or the thuggery from Davies.

For me this just shows that Ancelotti has to stand his ground in the media. He's allowed Coyle, O'Neill and Ferguson to set the media agenda that we've been playing with the refs on our side this season. Wenger has set the agenda that Arsenal are the purest football side in the world, have never committed a foul in their history and are being deliberately injured by opponents. Ancelotti has just said "I don't comment on referees" and been screwed because of it.
El Pac Carnegie wrote:
The two Utd players seem to get along so I'm guessing Fletcher got his mates permission to take her out.


SCOTLAND captain Darren Fletcher has bought a pounds 2000 diamond ring for his secret lover - his best friend's ex-girlfriend. The Manchester United midfielder has kept his relationship with 20-year-old student Hayley Grice under wraps as she used to date his team-mate John O'Shea.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_7 ... n37287484/

Clearly JT fancied a bit on the side and just wanted to get his end away. I really don't think the two can be compared.


But the outrage over JT isn't the fact he cheated on his wife - practically every single England captain that's ever worn the armband has done that - it's because he was screwing his ex-team mates ex girlfriend.

On the Mikel penalty, yes Bale is heading away from goal but Mikel would have to have some seriously dodgy shaped feet to have played that ball out at the angle it went out. Mikel definitely made contact with Bale and as such it is a penalty in my eyes.


Mikel wouldn't need dodgy shaped feet. He'd just need to toe-poke the ball.

It was a challenge where it was inconclusive who won the ball. Bale was going down before he even went into the challenge. That's not a stonewall penalty. It's a possible penalty that sometimes you get, sometimes you don't. If you're running the ball out of play and make it clear you're totally willing to go down then you generally don't get these calls.

I believe I saw the Drogba one on SSN after the game.


I've said this before. I watched the game live. When the incident happened I held my breath because I thought Drogba may have handled it. But no mention of it was made by the commentators and they just said that Davies had won the header. I just kind of forgot about the incident and marked it down as one of those times when you think you see something because of the angle, but didn't actually occur.

Just as the second half commenced the commentator said that Coyle was peed off because they should have had a pen in the first half. They then showed the incident, which clearly showed Drogba hitting the ball back with his arm. On the second showing they show one Bolton player raising his arms in appeal.

So no appeal from 10 Bolton players, including Kevin Davies who was involved. No appeal from the 50 Bolton fans in the ground. No appeal from the Bolton bench. No mention of it from the commentary team. No hint from the Sky production team that there was just a penalty incident. No hint from the Chelsea players that they'd possibly got away with a pen against them. No reaction from the Chelsea supporters that they'd just got away with a penalty decision.

But the ref and lino should have seen what 40,000 people didn't?

For me I'm never that bothered about penalty decisions that go against us that I didn't see. Against Inter I never saw the Inter defenders wrestling our players to the ground at the two corners, so I'm not going to get angry over the ref missing it too.

Coyle whined after the game about the two pens they should have had. IMO the lino was spot on with the decision that Terry played the second one with his chest. Everyone from Bolton claimed that one (and I thought it was a pen at the time) but the lino was adamant that it was the chest.

For the Bolton handball it was a bouncing ball that hit the hand of the Bolton defender. The Chelsea crowd screamed for it, I think Drogba claimed for it. The commentators summed it up as "You're not getting then pen when Bolton didn't get any their way for their two shouts."

After the game Coyle whines about being robbed off their two pens. No mention of all at the pen Chelsea should have had or the thuggery from Davies.

For me this just shows that Ancelotti has to stand his ground in the media. He's allowed Coyle, O'Neill and Ferguson to set the media agenda that we've been playing with the refs on our side this season. Wenger has set the agenda that Arsenal are the purest football side in the world, have never committed a foul in their history and are being deliberately injured by opponents. Ancelotti has just said "I don't comment on referees" and been screwed because of it.
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Re: More football chat : Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:04 pm  
Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:
Okay then. Care to list any of the sex scandals that have been revealed simply by papparazzi following stars? IMO that's not how it works. You cannot believe that major sections of the worlds press didn't know exactly what Tiger Woods was up to. They didn't print anything because there was no excuse to print anything. When his wife smashed up his car with a golf club, they had their excuse and wheeled out all their stories that they had filed for such a time.

No such event happened with Terry.


John Terry was the reason it got published. In his efforts to get the "super injunction" against those who had the info, he inadvertently attracted the attention of the rest of them which led to the widespread coverage. Also, the fact he is married and was supposedly best mates with Bridge added to the scandal.
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Re: More football chat : Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:04 pm  
Half empty Anfield.
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Re: More football chat : Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:21 pm  
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John Terry was the reason it got published. In his efforts to get the "super injunction" against those who had the info, he inadvertently attracted the attention of the rest of them which led to the widespread coverage. Also, the fact he is married and was supposedly best mates with Bridge added to the scandal.


Exactly mate. The reason that Fletcher's fling won't of been published to the extent of JT is that when that happened Fletcher was a bit part player fooling around with another bit part players ex mrs. It's hardly on the same level as England's captain rogering the England left backs ex mrs is it?
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Re: More football chat : Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:21 pm  
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Half empty Anfield.



Indeed, shocking really.

Clearly needs to be big changes at the club and soon but I can't see the sale getting pushed through quickly or on the cheap.


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Re: More football chat : Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:27 pm  
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Half empty Anfield.


All the local Liverpool fans struggled to get flights then? :wink:
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Re: More football chat : Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:58 pm  
37,697. Hardly half full.

For me I bet most of the empty seats are in West Ham's end. They're hardly likely to travel to Liverpool on a Monday night to see them spanked.

And, for me, people refusing to pay big money to watch an under-performing side stroll against relegation fodder is exactly the reason why football fans are treated like mugs so much. If fans stay away more they have more power.
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Re: More football chat : Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:27 pm  
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Because West Ham were his former club, surely?
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Re: More football chat : Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:47 pm  
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37,697. Hardly half full.

For me I bet most of the empty seats are in West Ham's end. They're hardly likely to travel to Liverpool on a Monday night to see them spanked.

And, for me, people refusing to pay big money to watch an under-performing side stroll against relegation fodder is exactly the reason why football fans are treated like mugs so much. If fans stay away more they have more power.


I watched it - they weren't.
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