: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:56 pm  

saint_me wrote:

It doesn't make a difference which one he fights, he will got snotted. There is a difference betwen fighting the likes of Monte Barret who in all fairness looked unfit and overweight and did not want to throw a punch and then having what will be his second fight (unless he fights another nobody inbetween) at this weight against either of the best 2 fighters in that division. What puzzles me even more is how, after one fight, can you be ranked number 4 heavyweight in the world?

I actually think Haye has a very good chance of winning this fight, I think he will be to quick in all departments for Klitschko

: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:48 pm  

saint_me wrote:

It doesn't make a difference which one he fights, he will got snotted. There is a difference betwen fighting the likes of Monte Barret who in all fairness looked unfit and overweight and did not want to throw a punch and then having what will be his second fight (unless he fights another nobody inbetween) at this weight against either of the best 2 fighters in that division. What puzzles me even more is how, after one fight, can you be ranked number 4 heavyweight in the world?

Barrett looked in good condition physically, however his ring entrance just about summed up his whole impact on that fight.
Haye hits harder than either of the Klitchkos IMO but the big question marks are does he have the chin to enable him to land his power shots. Should be an exciting fight anyhow.

: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:52 pm  

Whenever I've watched either of the Klitschko's i've always been amazed by the lack of mobility of both of them but the reach and height advantages they have obviously negates that problem...hopefully Haye will be the kind of fighter to cause them both serious trouble with better head and body movement...Rahman just kind of stoof there and got punched on Saturday night without even trying to get his napper out the way...very odd.

: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:29 pm  

Rahman is way, way past it. He was only ever half decent back in 2001 when he was lucky to beat an unprepared Lennox Lewis. Were now 7 years on and he is still having World Title fights which just about sums the division up at the moment.

I'm not suprised Haye has jumped straight into a fight with Vitali, he is confident and has every reason to be. I am really looking forward to it, we've had a lot of no-hopers promising to rule the heavyweight division since Lewis retired but nobody has delivered. He will.

: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:17 pm  

I wonder how David Haye's chin would stand up to a shot from a true heavyweight ?

: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:42 pm  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

I wonder how David Haye's chin would stand up to a shot from a true heavyweight ?

Probably not very good and he knows this himself.

: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:26 pm  

saint_me wrote:

What puzzles me even more is how, after one fight, can you be ranked number 4 heavyweight in the world?

Well, he has previous form. The last person to unify the cruiserweight division's major titles — Evander Holyfield — went onto become a world champion at heavyweight within 18 months. It may have been sooner if Mike Tyson had not have held the major titles. So, there’s also previous examples. It also makes business sense. The fans want this fight to happen, the networks do, and the WBC does. That’s probably why the WBC rates Haye as their fourth highest contender, whilst the IBF don’t have him in their top 20. The only belt that has any merit in its ranking system is the IBO. Notably, they too rank Haye highly — 8th.

: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:32 pm  

saint_me wrote:

It doesn't make a difference which one he fights, he will got snotted. There is a difference betwen fighting the likes of Monte Barret who in all fairness looked unfit and overweight and did not want to throw a punch and then having what will be his second fight (unless he fights another nobody inbetween) at this weight against either of the best 2 fighters in that division. What puzzles me even more is how, after one fight, can you be ranked number 4 heavyweight in the world?

Barrett went all out to fight and was in good shape, I thought. He threw punches recklessly and thats why Haye managed to knock him down so many times.

I think Haye's got a great chance against either of them. Vitali is the better fighter of the two IMO, but is probably ideal for Haye as he won't jab his way through the night like Wladmir would.

: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:52 pm  

Floyd approaches Hatton about re-match. As it says in the article, Hatton wants a fight with Pacquiao, which is the one I think will happen. If/when that takes place, the winner against Mayweather Jr becomes an even bigger fight. Smart manouevering by Floyd's camp, let it be known you want to fight again, claim you were blocked in the original opponent (Hatton) and then get your shot at the winner.

Floyd approaches Hatton about re-match. As it says in the article, Hatton wants a fight with Pacquiao, which is the one I think will happen. If/when that takes place, the winner against Mayweather Jr becomes an even bigger fight. Smart manouevering by Floyd's camp, let it be known you want to fight again, claim you were blocked in the original opponent (Hatton) and then get your shot at the winner.

: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:25 pm  

Lord_Percy wrote: Floyd approaches Hatton about re-match. As it says in the article, Hatton wants a fight with Pacquiao, which is the one I think will happen. If/when that takes place, the winner against Mayweather Jr becomes an even bigger fight. Smart manouevering by Floyd's camp, let it be known you want to fight again, claim you were blocked in the original opponent (Hatton) and then get your shot at the winner. If it does happen it will be after the Pacman fight. Which according SSN is going to happen in May.

Lord_Percy wrote: Floyd approaches Hatton about re-match. As it says in the article, Hatton wants a fight with Pacquiao, which is the one I think will happen. If/when that takes place, the winner against Mayweather Jr becomes an even bigger fight. Smart manouevering by Floyd's camp, let it be known you want to fight again, claim you were blocked in the original opponent (Hatton) and then get your shot at the winner. If it does happen it will be after the Pacman fight. Which according SSN is going to happen in May.