Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:00 pm  

John_D wrote:

Guardiola to return to coaching from the start of next season. Start your bidding.
I'll stick me neck out - I reckon he'll end up at Bayern Munich.

Why Bayern Munich?

They are 9 points clear in the Bundesliga, Germany isn't among the highest payers in world football, they only appointed their manager in 2011.

I'd say Chelsea, Citeh, PSG and even a return to Barca are far more likely than Munich.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:08 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Chelsea surely? It's been Abramovich's wish for years now, ever since he got rid of Mourinho?

Jose left in 2007. Guardiola didn't even take over in charge of Barca's first team until the 2008/09 season.

I am against Guardiola because I think the PL is far less forgiving to the football that Guardiola's teams play than Spain is. I'd far prefer a return for Jose. But if we don't have someone substantial lined up for the end of the season then Roman's decision to dispense with Di Matteo is even more stupid than it appeared.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:57 pm  

Whys is Suarez getting it in the neck for inept officiating?

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:50 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

I see Brenda has come out and blindly supported Suarez again. Whilst I'm not really that bothered about this particular example of him lacking morality, as there are plenty of other players would have done the same, is there a line at Liverpool that Suarez would need to cross before they would criticise him?

Horror tackles - Blindly supported, despite criticism from former greats
Diving - Blindly supported, despite condemnation from pretty much everyone else
Deliberate cheating - Blindly supported, the excuse being it's the referee's job to stop him cheating rather than his responsibility to not do it in the first place
Racism - Blindly supported, despite him being clearly guilty and being widely vilified for it, the t-shirt idea was simply horrific and an embarrassment to everything the club once was

How far could it go before Liverpool took a stance other than supporting him, as if he was an angel?

Another clueless post. Drivel, drivel, drivel.

What are these horror tackles you talk of? You have Fellaini in your side so you cant really say much.

Yes his diving has been condonmed by everyone else, even your manager has had a dig,.only to look like a fool when his captain threw himself on the floor days before his comments.

You have a very short memory. Try the derby in 2007 (?) Phil Neville punches the ball off the line in the final whistle and guess what, the ball wasnt coming at him from 2 yards away either. Therefore, Phil Neville, by Saddened's reckening, is a cheat.

One persons word against another.

Cheers.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:57 pm  

Fifa world team of the year

Iker Casillas (Real Madrid)
Dani Alves (Barcelona)
Gerard Pique (Barcelona)
Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid)
Marcelo (Real Madrid)
Andres Iniesta (Barcelona)
Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid)
Xavi (Barcelona)
Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid)
Radamel Falcao (Atletico Madrid)
Lionel Messi (Barcelona)

Hard to argue with the midfield and forwards, but the defence.......

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:29 pm  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

Fifa world team of the year

Iker Casillas (Real Madrid)
Dani Alves (Barcelona)
Gerard Pique (Barcelona)
Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid)
Marcelo (Real Madrid)
Andres Iniesta (Barcelona)
Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid)
Xavi (Barcelona)
Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid)
Radamel Falcao (Atletico Madrid)
Lionel Messi (Barcelona)

Hard to argue with the midfield and forwards, but the defence.......

Must be a record to all be represented by one league? And very nearly just the two teams in said league?!

Messi player of the year for the 4th year running too. Yet another record. He's only 25 too

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:34 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

I see Brenda has come out and blindly supported Suarez again. Whilst I'm not really that bothered about this particular example of him lacking morality, as there are plenty of other players would have done the same, is there a line at Liverpool that Suarez would need to cross before they would criticise him?

Horror tackles - Blindly supported, despite criticism from former greats
Diving - Blindly supported, despite condemnation from pretty much everyone else
Deliberate cheating - Blindly supported, the excuse being it's the referee's job to stop him cheating rather than his responsibility to not do it in the first place
Racism - Blindly supported, despite him being clearly guilty and being widely vilified for it, the t-shirt idea was simply horrific and an embarrassment to everything the club once was

How far could it go before Liverpool took a stance other than supporting him, as if he was an angel?

Almost as bad as Phil Neville.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:17 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

Almost as bad as Phil Neville.

That's the thing though, if Nev did those things, he'd get a public toasting from Moyes. He had a go at Neville for his dive, Neville owned up to that as well. Moyes also publicly criticised Marouane Fellaini, who is as important to Everton as Suarez is to Liverpool, for his antics at Stoke. Players make mistakes, they do things wrong all the time. It's how you deal with the issues that shows what kind of person you are. Suarez wouldn't have anything like the heat on him if he, and the club, came out and owned up to it occasionally.

The Blues were magnificent again tonight, did you watch it?

[John_D]

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:55 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Why Bayern Munich?

They are 9 points clear in the Bundesliga, Germany isn't among the highest payers in world football, they only appointed their manager in 2011.

I'd say Chelsea, Citeh, PSG and even a return to Barca are far more likely than Munich.

Heynckes may not have been there that long, but he's old and always felt like a stop-gap appointment.

Why Bayern? Big club, stable, opportunity to build something there, likely to get time to put systems and structures into place (such that it's required) - things that aren't necessarily the case at three of the clubs you mention.

Indeed, as it's put in today's Rumour Mill on the Guardian website re PSG wanting him, it's a question of whether he "agrees to transfer his knowledge of managing an ideologically-driven self-funding regional superpower club to splurging vast sums on a hurled-together team of pre-packaged footballing mercenaries"

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:34 am  

Saddened! wrote:

That's the thing though, if Nev did those things, he'd get a public toasting from Moyes. He had a go at Neville for his dive, Neville owned up to that as well. Moyes also publicly criticised Marouane Fellaini, who is as important to Everton as Suarez is to Liverpool, for his antics at Stoke. Players make mistakes, they do things wrong all the time. It's how you deal with the issues that shows what kind of person you are. Suarez wouldn't have anything like the heat on him if he, and the club, came out and owned up to it occasionally.

The Blues were magnificent again tonight, did you watch it?

Agreed, Moyes and Everton have been brilliant with this really, they seem to realise when a player crosses the line. Unlike some.