Re: Festive Football Chat : Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:49 am  

LFCRhino wrote:

Not gonna happen though lets face it he signed a new contract in the summer so unless he quits we cant afford to get rid

I think the owners will have to give him a nudge before he will resign.

We should be able to afford to pay him out. If not, i'm sure we can sell Melwood to Kop Holdings Ltd and lease it back off them

Re: Festive Football Chat : Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:51 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Lucas - Not good enough
Emiliano Insúa - Not good enough
David N'Gog - Not good enough
Damien Plessis - Not good enough
Nabil El Zhar - Not good enough

Those above you deemed not good enough are still young enough to develop their game to become good enough. There is only 2 players on that list that start regularly though. Wash N'gog is starting to become a good striker and would suit a regular spot in a Championship side. The other 2 we've not seen enough of to pass comment.

Re: Festive Football Chat : Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:09 pm  

I would love to know exactly how much Rafa has spent while he has been there. It said in the paper yesterday he has signed over 90 players. (It was The Mirror though).

Re: Festive Football Chat : Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:26 pm  

Nemanja wrote:

Ronaldo sale is included, Valencia isn't as he was signed after 30 June.

The fact that we had to sell £80m of player to make a profit is disturbing, and has come at a convenient time for the Glazer's when they are trying to work up this bond issue thing. Include that transfer and you have £40m profit instead of £40m loss, suddenly looks more appealing to investors, although surely they aren't that thick to believe it?

And £36m received up front for next seasons sponsorship

Re: Festive Football Chat : Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:46 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

:CRAZY:

Don't suggest they've not backed him. His decisions re. signings are awful. Bar Reina and Torres who were hardly difficult to pick as being quality, none of his other signings have made the grade.

Surely you cannot defend the failure he has become? If all the signings he'd made were doing well, like you can say for David Moyes or Alex McLeish or O'Neill for example then people would agree with you. But I bet Rafa has spent well over £100m on utter rubbish.

Failure? one bad season in his whole reign makes him a failure?

Re: Festive Football Chat : Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:51 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Although I know it wont be

PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE

You really think getting rid of him will change much?



You could bring Jose in and we still wouldn't make progress on the current top 4 under these owners we are just going to fall behind.

Can't believe people think we are going to bring someone new in the owners will give him money to splash and everything will be fine.

Truth is the club is debt ridden and its only going to get worse.

Re: Festive Football Chat : Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:54 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

Failure? one bad season in his whole reign makes him a failure?

No, failure to win the Premier League despite stating it as your goal for the best part of a decade makes him a failure.

Lets face it, Rafa is a fraud. The Champions League win was a total fluke but the much more difficult challenge of winning the Premier League is way beyond him. Hundreds of millions of pounds spent on players whilst only selling one against his will can hardly be a source for sympathy for him.

Re: Festive Football Chat : Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:59 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

:lol:

You really think getting rid of him will change much?



You could bring Jose in and we still wouldn't make progress on the current top 4 under these owners we are just going to fall behind.

Can't believe people think we are going to bring someone new in the owners will give him money to splash and everything will be fine.

Truth is the club is debt ridden and its only going to get worse.

have to agree there the owners have screwed liverpool up big time

Re: Festive Football Chat : Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:59 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

No, failure to win the Premier League despite stating it as your goal for the best part of a decade makes him a failure.

Lets face it, Rafa is a fraud. The Champions League win was a total fluke but the much more difficult challenge of winning the Premier League is way beyond him. Hundreds of millions of pounds spent on players whilst only selling one against his will can hardly be a source for sympathy for him.

You clueless gobshite

Fluke


You must be a blueshite supporter

Re: Festive Football Chat : Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:10 pm  

I don't buy the owners are to blame for Liverpool. They sanctioned big tranfers this summer in Johnson and Aquilani. I suppose the old "net spend" argument that Liverpool fans are so obbsessed about will rear it's ugly head.

United's current form is not down to the owners, it's down to the management and the players. Scouse fans need to realise that it's the same scenario with their club. Liverpool have one of the most expensive squads in the premier league and are under peforming. If some fans want to bury their head in the sand and blame the owners, good luck to them.