: Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:24 am  

PAUL M wrote:

He really is a complete tool

I don't get what gives him pride. Why doesn't he declare interest in Ribery, then when he joins Chelsea/Madrid he can take great pride in being beaten by two of the richest clubs in the world. Why doesn't he fill himself with pride and go head to head with every top club for players?

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:08 am  

D.D. wrote:

Mmm!

Chelsea were statistically the best supported club for many years before the Second World War. The only time that City were the biggest suppored club in the country was in 1927-28 when we were actually in the Second Division.

However, it is very much true to say that City's support eclipsed Chelsea's throughout the 70s, 80s and early 90s.

Statistically though, because Chelsea had such a large average crowd in the Pre-War years, they are ahead of us in the all time list.

City were always the best supported club in Manchester, until the 1940s, but we used to attract massive crowds for the big games only and did not sustain anywhere near that level for average league games.

That 's not what I was told in a discussion with Andrew Waldon. I cannot remember the exact figures but we managed to get "regular" crowds over 50k pre-war, with some as high as c80k. Certainly not an average anywhere near 80k but I was given the impression that they were c50k by Andrew.

I always thought that Chelsea's attendances peaked in the mid-50s?

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:39 am  

Enfield Exile wrote: That 's not what I was told in a discussion with Andrew Waldon. I cannot remember the exact figures but we managed to get "regular" crowds over 50k pre-war, with some as high as c80k. Certainly not an average anywhere near 80k but I was given the impression that they were c50k by Andrew. I always thought that Chelsea's attendances peaked in the mid-50s? Well he's taking rubbish! I do believe that we had only ever broken the 40,000 average four times in our history before we moved to the COM Stadium. www.mcfcstats.com and Gary James' book 'Manchester: The Greatest City" are excellent points of reference for things like that. Chelsea's crowds were at their peak in the 30s, 40s and 50s I think. The all time averages are on this link, up to the summer of 2008. http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/real ... cords.html

Enfield Exile wrote: That 's not what I was told in a discussion with Andrew Waldon. I cannot remember the exact figures but we managed to get "regular" crowds over 50k pre-war, with some as high as c80k. Certainly not an average anywhere near 80k but I was given the impression that they were c50k by Andrew. I always thought that Chelsea's attendances peaked in the mid-50s? Well he's taking rubbish! I do believe that we had only ever broken the 40,000 average four times in our history before we moved to the COM Stadium. www.mcfcstats.com and Gary James' book 'Manchester: The Greatest City" are excellent points of reference for things like that. Chelsea's crowds were at their peak in the 30s, 40s and 50s I think. The all time averages are on this link, up to the summer of 2008. http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/real ... cords.html

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:02 am  

D.D. wrote: Well he's taking rubbish! I cannot confirm if that's the case www.mcfcstats.com and Gary James' book 'Manchester: The Greatest City" are excellent points of reference for things like that. I like mcfcstats http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/real ... cords.html That's another source with City in another position. We are now the 3rd, 5th, 7th (provided by LGJM) and 8th best supported team. I would have thought that counting is an exact science. Did you ever go to Maine Road and here the attendance announced, and then think, "there must be at least 10k more in here than was announced over the tannoy"? My dad was at a derby game in the late 60s' and he said the attendance was announced over the PA as about 55k, but there was at least 70k in the stadium. This happened quite a bit under Peter Swales (RIP).

D.D. wrote: Well he's taking rubbish! I cannot confirm if that's the case www.mcfcstats.com and Gary James' book 'Manchester: The Greatest City" are excellent points of reference for things like that. I like mcfcstats http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/real ... cords.html That's another source with City in another position. We are now the 3rd, 5th, 7th (provided by LGJM) and 8th best supported team. I would have thought that counting is an exact science. Did you ever go to Maine Road and here the attendance announced, and then think, "there must be at least 10k more in here than was announced over the tannoy"? My dad was at a derby game in the late 60s' and he said the attendance was announced over the PA as about 55k, but there was at least 70k in the stadium. This happened quite a bit under Peter Swales (RIP).

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:04 am  

John Terry to hand in a transfer request?

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:09 am  

Just watched SSN and heard that Usmanov wanted to invest more money for transfers at Arsenal

The Chief Exec said no!


Got to love Arsenal.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:12 am  

They're on the verge of missing out on Felipe Melo from Fiorentina. If I was Arsenal's chief exec I'd get my finger out of my a'rse and get the deal done before Juve do.

The thing is, Wenger could go from spending 20m Euro's on a central midfielder, to then not even bother trying to sign someone, and settle with what he's got, which quite clearly isn't good enough.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:49 am  

Enfield Exile wrote:

John Terry to hand in a transfer request?

City need to bring this to a conclusion one way or another this week. It appears that this potential deal has brought our recruitment to a grinding halt. Hughes was spot on when he said we need to conclude our recruitment early in the window, but at this rate we'll still be putting our back four together on the coach to Blackburn.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:56 am  

Thats true we need to know what the crack is cause Everton will have a deadline for a offer for Lescott too and i dont want to mis out on him

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:21 pm  

Latest rumours.

Melo has signed with Juve. Liverpool interested in Cambiasso and Milan want Fabiano leaving the way clear for Utd to sign Huntelaar.