: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:32 pm  

RedTez wrote: An intersting article on the two clubs in the capital of the north. Agree with much of what Wilson says.....but I would, wouldn't I!!??!! Mate, most of that is nonsense. I don't know where to start. He must be a Rag. I could start with the rubbish about United acting with integrity in targetting and signing players...

RedTez wrote: An intersting article on the two clubs in the capital of the north. Agree with much of what Wilson says.....but I would, wouldn't I!!??!! Mate, most of that is nonsense. I don't know where to start. He must be a Rag. I could start with the rubbish about United acting with integrity in targetting and signing players...

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:34 pm  

flipper wrote:

do you actually believe that?

angling for a pay rise - nothing more i reckon.

Didn't I say that he was more likely top use us to gain a pay rise with Chelsea? I am all prepared to discuss issues but your post clearly shown that you should never join conversations half-way through.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:36 pm  

JT would be mad to leave Chelsea for Man City

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:51 pm  

flipper wrote:

angling for a pay rise - nothing more i reckon.

Indeed, doing what Stevie G did with Chelsea themselves, red or Blue "through and through" - as long as they come up with something like what the richest club is offering them.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:55 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

He said it

Must be true then!

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:00 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Didn't I say that he was more likely top use us to gain a pay rise with Chelsea? I am all prepared to discuss issues but your post clearly shown that you should never join conversations half-way through.

the posturing could well be JT & Chelsea both thinking what's on offer is too good to turn down (the money, not joining city i hasten to add) but no one wants to be seen to be up for the move - chelsea would not want to be seen to be wanting to flog 'Mr Chelsea / EBJT' & 'Mr Chelsea / EBJT' would not want to be seen to be handing in a transfer request - some papers have suggested Terry thinks Chelsea should have rushed to him with a counter offer, and their failure to do so, leaving him struggling by on 130+k per week is tantamount to telling him his is unwelcome at the club.


It is similar to when United signed Rio, everyone knew it was happening, but Leeds who liked to see themselves as rivals to United at the time didn't want to be seen to be a selling club and too eager to snap uniteds hand off, ferdinand didn't want to be seen to be handing in a a request to move to Leeds's much loved rivals over the pennines

So the posturing continued for a few weeks

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:08 pm  

flipper wrote:

the posturing could well be JT & Chelsea both thinking what's on offer is too good to turn down (the money, not joining city i hasten to add) but no one wants to be seen to be up for the move - chelsea would not want to be seen to be wanting to flog 'Mr Chelsea / EBJT' & 'Mr Chelsea / EBJT' would not want to be seen to be handing in a transfer request - some papers have suggested Terry thinks Chelsea should have rushed to him with a counter offer, and their failure to do so, leaving him struggling by on 130+k per week is tantamount to telling him his is unwelcome at the club.


It is similar to when United signed Rio, everyone knew it was happening, but Leeds who liked to see themselves as rivals to United at the time didn't want to be seen to be a selling club and too eager to snap uniteds hand off, ferdinand didn't want to be seen to be handing in a a request to move to Leeds's much loved rivals over the pennines

So the posturing continued for a few weeks

Spot on

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:19 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Spot on

But the fact remains that a move from Leeds United to Manchester United was a massive move up for Ferdinand.

A move from Chelsea to Man City is a massive move down for Terry.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:23 pm  

Wouldnt say massive move diwn. It would be a step bac but with what is being built it could work out better for him in the future. Myself i dot see him coming

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:23 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

But the fact remains that a move from Leeds United to Manchester United was a massive move up for Ferdinand.

True

A move from Chelsea to Man City is a massive move down for Terry.

Only in terms of current levels of competitiveness and CL qualification. In terms of popularity (i.e. supporters), you are still a fair way behind us even with your recent 'history'.