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Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:23 pm  
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I guess you're right. It's easy to visualise Wasim Akram or John Lever bowling like that, it was the notion of Johnson bowling with accuracy and consistency that made me sceptical.


Johnson does tend to be round armed and slingy but it does mean he releases the ball from close to the stumps, so when he pitches up the ball is likely to be going wicket to wicket. Terry Alderman was the same after his shoulder injury which lowered his arm, he used to release the ball from about level with middle and off, so the ball wasn't angling in like it usually does.

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Your mention of Mark Ilott prompted me to look him up on cricinfo.com. He made his debut at Trent Bridge against Australia in 1993, a match in which Martin McCague, Mark Lathwell and Graham Thorpe also made their debuts. (The match finished as a draw, as we discovered one new talent while the other three pretty much sank without trace.) The thought of four players making their debut in the same Test for England seems insane these days, but the Aussie selection policy for the current series hasn't been a million miles away from that of England in the early nineties.


Out of those three who sank, Ilott was the one who I thought had some potential. Him and Peter Martin swung the ball well in South Africa in 1995/96 but when the English summer came around Alan Mullally got called up and he was the left armer of choice for the next few years. I never saw much in Mullally, he didn't swing it, he used to waste the new ball by bowling outside off stump so the batsman just left it alone till the shine had come off it, he'd finish his opening spell with 0-15 in 7 overs and everybody said yeah Mullally keeps it tight!

McCague was crap, not fast enough to bowl the short balls he did and was cannon fodder to good batsmen. Lathwell was a strange case, he could play some great shots. I remember seeing him open for Somerset once, he came in, smashed four boundaries in the first couple of overs and then played a crap upper cut and got caught in the gully for 16 or so. He walked off happy as larry, normally when openers are out early they come off cursing and ranting. Lathwell just shrugged his shoulders and sauntered back with a smile on his face then appeared at the pavilion balcony eating his breakfast and reading the paper a few minutes later, he was like a club cricketer who just likes to play his shots and doesn't really give that much of a toss. He retired from cricket pretty early, I don't think he could be bothered with the modern era of running miles, spending hours in the gym and having dieticians monitor what you eat....
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Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:30 am  
Well that didn't last long
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Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:56 am  
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Well that didn't last long



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parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time



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Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:49 am  
I genuinely cant stand test cricket at any level.

But I laughed out loud when I heard the result. Will the crowd get a refund because the soapies folded a day and a half early?


Maybe we should call them South Africa 'C' from now on?

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Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:08 pm  
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I genuinely cant stand test cricket at any level.


But seeing as you've actually won a game, you thought you'd perk up?
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parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time



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What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.




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Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:11 pm  
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But seeing as you've actually won a game, you thought you'd perk up?


Not really.

I would sooner "England" won the Ashes personally.

Maybe then the 5 day (well usually 5 day unless South Africa C fold again) form of the game might die out completely in Australia leaving more tv time for decent sports like V8 Supercars and NRL

It's still funny how you lost though. Everyone seemed to be saying the soapies would win the ashes 5-0. I havent laughed so much since the 'Stanford Superstars' bowled you out for about 50 runs in that big winner gets millions of bucks match a few years ago

:D :D :D :D
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Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:52 pm  
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Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:08 am  
That was utterly disgusting
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dally messenger wrote:
parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time



The Chief wrote:
What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.




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I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.




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Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:11 am  
MrPhilb wrote:
That was utterly disgusting


Which bit?

The fact your South Africans didnt perform or just the fact they are South African?

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Dont worry..it's no shame to come from a country that has to rely on South Africans to fill up it's national cricket team. South Africa 'C' will probably still win the Ashes.

There is something seriously wrong if they dont.

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Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:08 am  
Barry_McKenzie wrote:
Everyone seemed to be saying the soapies would win the ashes 5-0.
:D :D :D :D



Maybe in your insignificant, deluded world. I have heard no such rubbish :MOON:
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