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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:39 pm  
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As a bit of a side issue, would it be fair to say that England's dismal performances in the last decade, with what many regard as a pretty decent squad, is down to the fact that nearly all of our players tie themselves to the English League and so are pretty clueless when it comes to the technical skills of international football?

Would it have helped England as a side, if the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes, etc had made the move to the Spanish or Italian leagues, helping their technical abilities?

Certainly, if you believe the hype, there wouldn't have been a lack of big European clubs after these kinds of players, and so if they had gone for a spell, perhaps things might have been different?


I don't know what you were expecting to change? I find it hard to believe that a move in country will suddenly develop things like composure, decision making and tactical awareness. Scholes managed to develop things like this through experience, but the majority of players can never gain these things. If we sent Lampard and Gerrard to Spain when they were 10-12 and asked them to learn things like that, maybe they would have changed, but it's very hard for players to completely change their natural game, a change in league would've done very little, IMO.

If you want a better example of how foreign football can develop our players, look at the alleged Englishman Owen Hargreaves. He came through the Bayern ranks and was completely unique to anything we had: an athletic player with positional awareness, versatility and sound ability. If we should be doing anything, we should be trying our utmost to push players to join foreign academies (if the opportunities arise). To completely contradict myself, however, I do feel English academies are coming on strong, largely because we're importing more foreign coaches with the right ideas and philosophies, so we will eventually 'catch on'.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:43 pm  
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:17 pm  
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You would find the same words being spouted about many players.

Just as you get the press informing us of who is 'world class'. If I listened to them, there would be at least 200 world class players currently plying a trade.

You still haven't stated why City was brought into the debate.


See that's the thing - you can generally have a conversation with a proper United fan.


Circa 400 games over the years - gutted it doesn't meet your approval obv

It's not the press telling us things though is it, unless they made the quotes up!


I form my own opinions - I seldom buy a tabloids and given that I've worked in press and radio for nearly 20 years I like to think I've got a reasonable grasp of how the media works at times thanks.


The kinkladze line as I suspect you know was reference to him being hailed as better than Best by some city supporters which isn't quite the same accolade as Zidane or the like singing your praises.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:19 pm  
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:44 pm  
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Scholes was good but he was no Ricard


He was no David Batty, I bet Real Madrid never wanted Scholes!
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:55 pm  
Are EE and the LGJM the same person? Seriously, for one person to be so biased is unfortunate but 2 people as bad as each other seems pretty implausible for me.

Then again, I remember EE telling us that Berbatov was the third most gifted player in the Premiership so I took his opinions with a pinch of salt long ago.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:10 pm  
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He was no David Batty, I bet Real Madrid never wanted Scholes!


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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:18 pm  
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He was no David Batty, I bet Real Madrid never wanted Scholes!

I remember David Batty! Famous for getting a smack off Graeme Le Saux on the pitch.


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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:39 pm  
I see Michael Owen has signed a new deal at Manchester United. Probably more to do with horseraces and helicopters than football me thinks. Seems to be quite good mates with Fergie.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:56 pm  
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I see Michael Owen has signed a new deal at Manchester United. Probably more to do with horseraces and helicopters than football me thinks. Seems to be quite good mates with Fergie.

Can't blame him really, he'll be getting payed for sitting on his flange warming up the bench all season, either that or sitting on the treatment table all year.
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