Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:49 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

Pacheco was given more of shot then he his being given now, Babel is a lazy tvvat and always will be and Jovanovic never played for him.

He won't come back but I would have him in a heart beat, instead we are stuck with a clueless biff who was suppose to "steady the ship" good times.

I would have him over Roy, but it isn't a move that makes sense when you consider the direction the ownership want to take us. Bringing in a man who has a rich history of fighting with those above him would be a stupid move by the current owners, especially if it's just to appease fans that miss him.

Pacheco was given more of a chance under Rafa, but still wasn't given a proper chance; the chance he deserved. Nemeth was sold without even consideration, whilst Jovanovic was signed on a free with the probable view to play ahead of young players.

Babel was lazy, but why did Rafa sign him if he was lazy? If Rafa couldn't develop his work rate, why did the rest of his game never develop? I understand it's a two-way thing, but Rafa isn't a great coach at handling young players. His finest league season came when he managed to get an experienced squad of players playing regularly.

Roy is a crap coach, nobody denies it, but Rafa isn't the man to lead the club anymore. We need a complete fresh start to go with the current ownership, bringing Rafa back would be a calamity, IMO.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:50 pm  

Mark wrote:

Hwo do you think Parry was percieved by the players?

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:53 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

So you don't think they got on with him I take it?

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:56 pm  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

I would have him over Roy, but it isn't a move that makes sense when you consider the direction the ownership want to take us. Bringing in a man who has a rich history of fighting with those above him would be a stupid move by the current owners, especially if it's just to appease fans that miss him.

Pacheco was given more of a chance under Rafa, but still wasn't given a proper chance; the chance he deserved. Nemeth was sold without even consideration, whilst Jovanovic was signed on a free with the probable view to play ahead of young players.

Babel was lazy, but why did Rafa sign him if he was lazy? If Rafa couldn't develop his work rate, why did the rest of his game never develop? I understand it's a two-way thing, but Rafa isn't a great coach at handling young players. His finest league season came when he managed to get an experienced squad of players playing regularly.

Roy is a crap coach, nobody denies it, but Rafa isn't the man to lead the club anymore. We need a complete fresh start to go with the current ownership, bringing Rafa back would be a calamity, IMO.

Guess he didn't know Babel enjoyef trying to rap and twitter so much, wasn't it Roy who sold Nemeth?

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:57 pm  

Mark wrote:

So you don't think they got on with him I take it?

Erm no Mark.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:45 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

Erm no Mark.

Just wondering what your opinion was. Cheers.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:06 pm  

Don't know why you bother with Wire85, Mark. He talks about as much sense as Rafa. Robbie or Wire Fanatic are the most sensible LFC posters on here but then again Rottens Rafa Review is often flawed as he's god as far as he's concerned.

A few LFC fans have said they want him back at LFC. But they were made up when he left? Football eh?!

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:34 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

Guess he didn't know Babel enjoyef trying to rap and twitter so much, wasn't it Roy who sold Nemeth?

Purslow, I think, but it was Rafa who didn't play him and it was Rafa that sent him away on loan and kept Voronin.

Re: More Football Chat : Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:43 am  

It would be a big mistake for us to bring Benitez back, I wouldn't be in favour. He'd be a better bet than Hodgson is, but with the director of football model we're going with we almost need a coach rather than a traditional manager. I don't think Benitez would, or could, work under those conditions (as I think his time at Inter and his battles with Parry show).

It would almost be as big a mistake as bringing Dalglish in.

Re: More Football Chat : Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:05 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

Kenny.

Why on earth would any sane Liverpool fan want Kenny Dalglish back?

Yes, he is quite rightly worshipped for his acheivements as a player, but as a manager his record is extremely dodgy.

Aside from a double almost a quarter of a century ago (which Everton handed them on a plate), his record is littered with breakdowns and mediocrity.

Yes, he bought another title in '88, but from then on he set Liverpool on a steady downward spiral, which was only halted when Houllier took over.

At Blackburn, with a huge (for its time) budget, he twice almost snatched defeat from the jaws of glory, firstly going for promotion, which he scraped through eventually via the play-offs, and then the famous title win, which he should have had sewn up about a month before the end of the season, but instead had to rely on West Ham holding on with Man Utd.

As for his Newcastle record, well it is that forgetable, that most folk can't even recall him having a spell there!!

If you throw in his long spell of inactivity and his liking for throwing in the towel when the going gets tough, then I fail to honestly see why anybody would want him running things??