Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:25 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

Am I the only one who really, REALLY doesn't want Brasil to win the world cup?

I don't. Neymar loves himself more than Ronaldo loves himself. He scored 2, but Oscar ran that game, and deserved his goal, too. Dreadful penalty decision aswell, Croatia were hard done to

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:36 pm  

Technological advancement my backside.
What does it take for a video ref to look at that penalty award and show it for the travesty it was and reverse it.
The ref was a joke.

And what is it with pundits that demand that Brazil win every World Cup.

I despair.

The only consolation I take is that it is not just England that are on the wrong end of refereeing howlers, which in no way excuses useless refs.

Also, in football cheats prosper ....

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:37 pm  

For the pen the Croatia player did have a little tug on the shoulder of Fred. Fred dived liked a cheating diving **** though and the ref was a complete **** for awarding that.

Thought that the Croatia player did jump in from distance on the keeper and his arm was above Caesar. That's a standard foul from nearly every ref and lino nowadays. The fact that Caesar fluffed his take made it look more debatable than it actually was. Frustrating but correct decision IMO.

I think the Ramires tackle for the third goal was a textbook midfield challenge. Took the ball cleanly and mugged the midfielder in a dangerous position. But I'm judging that challenge from the way the game was played in the 1980s. In 2014 that was sadly a tackle from behind and should have been given as a foul.

The Croatia goalkeeper made the ref look good.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:38 pm  

The goal Croatia had disallowed was a shocking decision too I thought.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:41 pm  

I agree, I thought the Croatian keeper who generally played well, was crap for all three goals.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:43 pm  

Also I thought that Neymar should have walked for that elbowing.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:14 pm  

Stand-Offish wrote:

Also I thought that Neymar should have walked for that elbowing.

Think it's fair to say that Neymar will be able to do no wrong in this tournament. Pundits were awful in 2010, basically sucking the ball into the net for any African team who was playing

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:42 am  

Brazil haven't been this free-flowing, sexy football playing team since their failure in 1982. They have always played with a holding midfielder in front of the CBs and been cynical, dirty, cheating, reliant on 1 or 2 world class forwards etc. Despite this pundits/commentators/journalists still w@nk all over them and their supposed beautiful game. And it's worked for them to be fair.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:45 am  

I actually thought the ref was quite good up to the penalty decision last night. The Neymar yellow was right in my eyes though some refs could easily have given him a red. The disallowed Croatia goal was probably right in this day and age though that just shows how turd the game is at times these days when you can't challenge a keeper. Croatia showed in those last 10 minutes that this Brazil team is hugely fallible in midfield and at the back.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:58 am  

There's a strong argument for the red when you watch the replay and see Neymar looking at the Croatia player and then sticking his arm in the face.

I'm not really sure whether that was an intentional arm in the face or just Neymar protecting himself and accidentally catching him.

Definitely seen players walk for it, but seen plenty of others go with just a yellow as well. IMO a yellow is about right.

But considering this was Brazil, in Brazil in the WC opening match, it's Neymar, Brazil's most popular player. It would have taken an insanely strong ref to make a decision on a red in real time.

I think a Croatia player could have got away with a yellow for that challenge too. But the pen would have only been given for Brazil and virtually any other side would have been getting their player booked for that.