Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:00 pm  

Did anybody have Wolves-Villa for a five goal game?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:02 pm  

There are many reasons why Everton won't go down. Wigan Athletic, Wolves and Bolton are just three of them.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:03 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Please for the love of god Moyes, just go now. I'd happily swap Blackburn for Steve Kean given how Moyes is doing currently.

Everton are in real danger this season. I can't honestly see them winning any more that one or two games before the end of the season and if the bottom clubs start to pick up points, Everton could well go down.

Have to agree.....The fellow has had his day at Goodison, we are now the worst side to watch in the league and will have deserved to have gone down, when it happens in May....With Moyes at the helm, it is nailed on.

Of course, the neutrals will come on and defend Moyes, pointing out his record and having little money, but really, he is now living on his reputation.

And to think some folk think he can succeed Fergie at Old Trafford??....

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:24 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Have to agree.....The fellow has had his day at Goodison, we are now the worst side to watch in the league and will have deserved to have gone down, when it happens in May....With Moyes at the helm, it is nailed on.

Of course, the neutrals will come on and defend Moyes, pointing out his record and having little money, but really, he is now living on his reputation.

And to think some folk think he can succeed Fergie at Old Trafford??....

The attributes Moyes has is that he can solidify a side so that they are hard to beat. With less money than other managers he has made Everton a reasonable side and he has time and time again gone on good runs and got the club up to the top half. What he lacks is the ability to turn hard to beat into a team that often wins and pushes on as the likes of Spurs have done. He can organise a defense, but he hasn't got a clue about the attacking side of things, Everton are playing awful football at the moment and don't threaten even the worst sides in the league.

His continual excuses about the money he's given or rather not given, if I were Bill Kenwright I wouldn't give him money to spend either. A few seasons back I would have argued the opposite, but his recent decisions have been awful. We have no centre backs and he lets Yobo leave, we have no strikers who can score goals and he lets Yakubu, one of the Premier League's most consistent scorers leave. Then rather than replace either, he signs Darren Gibson.

He needs to be less stubborn and along with Kenwright he needs to realise Everton ARE a selling club, or at least should be. He should have sold Rodwell when he was being hyped up and before everyone realised how average he is. He should be selling Barkley now whilst there is still some hype around him, or at least occassionally play him.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:30 pm  

ARF, MEGALOLZ, etc etc

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:46 pm  

#KeepKingKenny #KKK

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:47 pm  

Where to start with Liverpool's troubles? I'll do my best to work through some of them.

Our signings. Charlie Adam - he may well be one of the most average players to ever play for us. He's unbelievably selfish, his passing is predictable and his general game is woeful. He creates little, he can't defend, he can't shoot and when he gets in good positions, he doesn't give it to those in better positions.
Andy Carroll - actually done a few OK things in the first half, nothing remarkable, but actually things of a footballer, which is surprising given the past 12 months. He's crapper than Heskey and he's just as unproductive, 12 months on from the signing and I can comfortably say he's the worst ever transfer in football. I wouldn't take him on a free, he is that bad.
Stewart Downing - Kenny said the other day "he's better than I thought", just how bad did you think he was, Kenny? He is abysmal, he is the model English player; average, inconsistent and weak mentally. Another player I wouldn't have took on a free, he is so poor.
Henderson - played out of position today, but it doesn't hide a very slow start to his career with us. He's got many attributes, but concentration, tactical awareness and decision making aren't there at all. We probably overpaid by about £6m (if we did pay £16m for him).
Enrique - a decent fee for a proven full back, but the fella again suffers for inconsistency. Glen Johnson is worse, but Enrique is distinctly limited and crumbles under pressure.
Dirk Kuyt came on and offered nothing, he's offered nothing this season, he's offered nothing but work rate and 'big goals' in his Liverpool career. He's limited, slow, his technique makes me cringe and he's another who has an adverse effect on the way the team plays.

For me, Liverpool's transfer activity in 2011 may well be ranked as some of the poorest in the history of football. When Comolli came in, I assumed we'd be unearthing gems and signing talent from all over the globe, instead we signed the most average players from the domestic league. Suarez, Enrique and Coates are the only 'good' signings, the rest represented woeful value for money. The rest of Europe must have been laughing their nuts off whilst Liverpool, a team that only a few years ago donned players like Alonso, Torres and Mascherano, had reverted to spunking money on the poorest league in the world in terms of value for money. Actually, I doubt they will have laughed, they must have been gutted that they couldn't offload a pile of crap on us for £20m.

With regards to today's game, it has been typical of the majority of our bad/average games this season, of which there have been many. Our passing is slow and predictable, without the ball we aren't defending as a team, our movement off the ball is restricted to two players; Gerrard and Bellamy. Our team was woeful, the only time I've seen us worse than this was 13 months ago under Roy. If we don't sign a couple of good players by February, we can say goodbye to the top 4 and probably the Europa League. All our owners spoken about when they arrived was how competitive they are, well, we'll soon see how they react.

Absolutely fuming.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:44 pm  

Liverpool have won only four points and scored only four goals in the four league games without Luis Suárez since his suspension began.

I'd like to know what the reaction of Liverpool fans towards the manager would be if it wasn't Dalglish.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:55 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

Liverpool have won only four points and scored only four goals in the four league games without Luis Suárez since his suspension began.

I'd like to know what the reaction of Liverpool fans towards the manager would be if it wasn't Dalglish.

I'm a little bit perplexed by the past couple of games. We played 5 at the back at home to Stoke with one up front, we never got going and both sides cancelled each other out. We go away to Bolton, effectively play a 4-4-2 without any holding/defensive minded midfielders, and get mauled by Bolton's midfield runners and their wide players cutting in. Both games were winnable, yet questionable tactics meant we came away with a point. Kenny's a great man and I want him to stay at Liverpool, I think he has the right ideas in ways and his medium term aim is good, I just think he/they (Comolli) overdone it for the short term. We went all in and invested a vast sum to try and compete now, but the ideas behind the investment were never right. We invest in players from the domestic league with the belief that they would hit the ground running, but talent always shines through and we got very little of that for our money. There is no rule when it comes to transfers, there are always exceptions, so why we tried to go with the "English based = proven" rule, I don't really know. Over the years we've signed Johnson, Keane, Konchesky, Downing, Adam, Carroll and Henderson for vast sums, but we probably paid twice too much for all of them, if not more.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:04 am  

Nailed on LFC win next week now. Kenny will be King again then.