: Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:12 pm  

Think his legacy is secure... I'd consider retirement... or take on Pavlik... your right, other than him... there is noone.

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:18 pm  

John_D wrote:

Joe Cortez.... Get rid. He's a Golden Boy ref who allows the Golden Boy fighter to do what he wants.

Well said, Cortez was a joke. Unbelieveable scenes as to many parts of the fight and the word farce was certainly coming into mind.

Great victory for Calzaghe though, talk about being up against it but he still pulled it out the bag. Hopkins was as expected, ran away from Joe for 12 rounds and did nothing coming forward apart from a lucky knock down early in the 1st.

Some great moments though, one when Hopkins ran away and hid behind the ref and two when Calzage signed to be giving it Hopkins up the arse after he feigned another low blow.

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:35 pm  

Must admit, I'm surprised by some of the gaps in the scoring. I had Calzaghe by a few points, but a six-point gap seemed a bit much for me.

Must agree on Cortez. I don't think he realises that we're not tuned in to watch him. When a referee is introduced with his own tag-line, you know it's gone too far. Hopkins didn't want to fight and he knew the referee would defend him if it ever looked in danger of turning into a brawl.

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:00 pm  

There's not much Cortez could have done but deduct a point, and it wouldn't have stopped Hopkins holding anyway. The criticism he received from the Mayweather/Hatton fight may have been on his mind too.

Anyway, he wouldn't want to tarnish his HBO given repuation as ‘firm but fair’. I remember a time when referees were seen and not heard...

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:57 pm  

beax wrote:

Think his legacy is secure... I'd consider retirement... or take on Pavlik... your right, other than him... there is noone.

I think his legacy is secure over here with British fight fans, however he needs to become 'The Legend Killer' for him to have a universal legacy.

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:31 pm  

Nah... just listen to the way the yanks spoke about him... they know... now he's P4P equal with PBF... shame he didnt go to the states earlier but he's a record breaker, undefeated, greatest Super Middle in history by a mile, pretty much there really. Will be rated with Monzon, Hagler, et al

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:14 pm  

Superbowl Scott wrote:

Hopkins 7th round KO.

Superbowl Scott wrote:

If you have alook at my recent calls ive been pretty much spot on.

But hey dont let that get in your way

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:08 pm  

John_D wrote:

Classic Hopkins really. Only one person wanted to fight there and that's got to be how Chuck Giampa saw it to come up with a 6-point gap.

Joe Cortez.... Get rid. He's a Golden Boy ref who allows the Golden Boy fighter to do what he wants.

F*cking rubbish Cortez isn't he? How much spoiling was Hopkins allowed to get away with? It was almost a carbon copy of the Hatton/Mayweather fight.

Personally thought Hopkins was about 3 or 4 points up at the half way point, but Calzaghe won 5 out of the last 6 rounds for me to just take it.

[John_D]

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:21 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

F*cking rubbish Cortez isn't he? How much spoiling was Hopkins allowed to get away with?

Grabbed Calzaghe's right arm on the blind side every time. Pushed away with the head. Basically did everything Hopkins has been doing for years and been allowed to get away with for years because he's Hopkins. You wouldn't see Micky Vann standing for any of that nonsense.

: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:25 pm  

John_D wrote:

Grabbed Calzaghe's right arm on the blind side every time. Pushed away with the head. Basically did everything Hopkins has been doing for years and been allowed to get away with for years because he's Hopkins. You wouldn't see Micky Vann standing for any of that nonsense.

The most frustrating aspect for me was the holding again. He wouldn't let Hatton get on the inside whatsoever against Mayweather, yet he had no problem with Hopkins holding at every opportunity (when he made little attempt to fight on the inside). Absolute farce and spoiled the fight.