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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:37 pm  
From BBC Sport - It v Eng

1857: The team upstairs have worked their magic and we now have highlights of England's fight back in Rome, all neatly packaged in an action-packed 3 minutes 57 seconds.
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:44 pm  
Followed your advice Andy (kind of) and had England to win by 1-5.
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:47 pm  
A game of two Englands.
I honestly couldn't see the aim of the way England played in the first half.
Someone will no doubt justify the pointless boring spectacle it was from England.
Second half, we attacked and made things happen and won.
But still the handling, timing and direction of passes is embarrassing to watch.

I was mightily glad that Ben Youngs was substituted. He was hopeless (correction ... is hopeless). He's just like a robot, no awareness of where the ball is, very little spatial awareness and lets the ball get nicked while he spends eternities looking where to throw the ball.
We perked up big-time after he went.
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:02 pm  
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I was mightily glad that Ben Youngs was substituted. He was hopeless (correction ... is hopeless). He's just like a robot, no awareness of where the ball is, very little spatial awareness and lets the ball get nicked while he spends eternities looking where to throw the ball.

He is one of many in English rugby union.
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:21 am  
I think the whole English team is vastly overated. The forwards are slow, ponderous and couldnt punch a hole in a wet paper bag with the ball in hand. The I.talian pack pushed and bossed them all over the park even after their two best players, Castrowhatever and Parise were crocked. The backs had no clue and kicked away possession with monotomous regularity. In fact all these 6 nations teams do that. They are stuck in a time warp and seem inacapable of realising that keeping possession and running at the opposition will gain you rewards in the form of a line break or a penalty and constant tackling will tire out the opposition. Kicking the ball back will reverse that situation and put you at a disadvantage. How the press can prattle on about a wonderous comeback when the Italians gifted them a try and then missed two very kickable penalties which would have won them the game is a mystery to me. This is Italy, people.

The Wales, Scotland game was better but the Welsh pack is overated. The shaggy haired prop is useless and even in the scrum, he should have been penalsied for collpasing right under his own posts but the referee bottled it and ordered a reset.The Scottish one underated. They have some very powerful runners and tacklers who would not be out of place in RL. The Welsh backs are pretty good but even they kick way too much. The Welsh also manage to have a player lying on the wrong side of every ruck being allegedly unable to roll away and slowing down the Scottish ball, I kid you not, check it out and the ref was completely oblivious. He was conned. The Scots have been robbed against England and unlucky with the sin binnings against Wales. Before that they were on top. They have improved out of all recognition since the world cup when they were dire but still should have beaten England.
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:12 pm  
I watch pretty much all the Unions internationals and fair a bit of the Premiership. What I think frustrates me the most is the utter lack of creativity in the midfield – this is most evident in the internationals where the defences are usually well drilled and the defending teams never commit more than two bodies to the breakdown unless a turnover looks possible due to an isolated runner

This results in phase after phase of forward barges or a big centre hitting the gain line. I sit through so many phases of attack but don’t see anybody looking to beat the line with clever ball handling or an off load. The New Zealand team try to do this but even they are stifled by the defence for long periods. I’m sure this will continue until the fly half and inside centre become more creative rather than a kicker and runner respectively

Of course one answer would be to remove a couple of defensive players from the line – maybe the flankers – to open up the space for creativity but for some reason I can’t see that happening any time soon
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:53 pm  
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:19 pm  
If ever evidence were needed that close games aren't always "exciting", this weekend's 6 (or should that be 4?) Nations showed plenty of it.

England are so sterile and predictable. Stuart Lancaster - for all his words - played a very forward dominated style at Leeds, mainly due to the players he had at his disposal. Nothing I've seen so far with England convinces me that he's going to be any different at international level.

That 160 minutes of rugby has produced two charge down tries is embarrasing.
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:24 am  
Gateshead will return to Kingston Park, the home of rugby union side Newcastle Falcons, to play Leigh Centurions next month.
With Gateshead International Stadium unavailable, Thunder will host last season's winners in their final Northern Rail Cup group match on March 4.
They previously played at the ground in their final home game of the 2008 season, when the side lifted the National League 2 trophy in front of a bumper crowd and the SKY TV cameras.
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