Re: More Football Chat : Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:30 pm  

Well done to the new owners for getting rid of Allardyce.When they took over they said they wanted us to play good football so the writing was on the wall from the start.The final straw must have been yesterday starting 6 defenders against the local rivals then failing to bring a second forward on when Bolton had a man sent off.It's a big risk getting rid of him but I for one am looking forward to watching the ball played on the floor more from now on.

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:42 pm  

RedTez wrote:

Now that is a shock.

You are not allowed to comment on any other clubs mate or are you "obsessed" with Rovers too??

DAR130 wrote:

Well done to the new owners for getting rid of Allardyce.When they took over they said they wanted us to play good football so the writing was on the wall from the start.The final straw must have been yesterday starting 6 defenders against the local rivals then failing to bring a second forward on when Bolton had a man sent off.It's a big risk getting rid of him but I for one am looking forward to watching the ball played on the floor more from now on.

Who do you think will be next in line? Big-ish name from abroad or what? And who would you, ideally, fancy in the role?

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:53 pm  

Ordsall Quays Red wrote:

Who do you think will be next in line? Big-ish name from abroad or what? And who would you, ideally, fancy in the role?

The new owners have stated they want us to play 'pretty' football to build the club up in India where most people interested in football are Man United fans so someone who likes to play the ball on the ground.I personally would like them to go for Holloway much like Bolton did last year getting Coyle from Burnley but I doubt he's the kind of person that would walk out on Blackpool.If not him Martin Jol is looking for a job since leaving Ajax last week.

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:07 pm  

I cant see any sensible manager wanting to manage Rovers if its a requirement that they play pretty football.

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:32 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

I cant see any sensible manager wanting to manage Rovers if its a requirement that they play pretty football.

Why not,any style of football is better than the dross served up by Allardyce's teams in the last 2 years.There are a lot of managers out there that would love to take over a premiership team where the owners have stated they will give him money to spend in january.

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:19 pm  

DAR130 wrote:

Well done to the new owners for getting rid of Allardyce.When they took over they said they wanted us to play good football so the writing was on the wall from the start.The final straw must have been yesterday starting 6 defenders against the local rivals then failing to bring a second forward on when Bolton had a man sent off.It's a big risk getting rid of him but I for one am looking forward to watching the ball played on the floor more from now on.

I was hoping you'd pop on here and give us your thoughts. I thought you'd be quite happy as I remember you saying something recently about not being totally happy with him. Everyone seems genuinely shocked he's been sacked and I can't see why (although that's mostly the pundits/presenters off the tele), I can only think it's because for some reason they all love Allardyce, I don't see why any club with any ambition would want Allardyce in charge.

Martin Jol has been installed as favourite for the job that'd be a great appointment imo.

Cibaman wrote:

I cant see any sensible manager wanting to manage Rovers if its a requirement that they play pretty football.

Eh, why not? What's wrong with Blackburn wanting to play pretty football? They've got players that can do it. Surely it should be an ambition of every club to play good football?

Re: Re: : Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:20 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Hope that wasn’t a dig at Kolarov, DD. The lad is expected to cross the ball but what can he do when, for the majority of the season, only Tevez has been in the box.

Not a dig at all. I am saying that we haven't had anyone who is decent at taking set pieces for years. Kolarov is allegedly good at this but we haven't seen any evidence of it yet.

Enfield Exile wrote:

Reading the posts of the one or two people who appear to know what’s going on at City, Dzeko is not a replacement for Tevez. The aim was to bring him in regardless, thus giving us more attacking options.

Well he wasn't meant to be but it will end up being that way as he will end up our first choice centre forward instead if Tevez days in a blue shirt are numbered.

Enfield Exile wrote:

Did you notice that Tevez did not criticise Mancini in his press release even though it is obvious that he has issues with the Italian? It may be that he, or should I say Joorabchian, are either targeting Cook (as suggested by LGJM) or maybe Tevez wants to stay and knows that criticising Mancini would make his position untenable.

I'm pretty sure Tevez does not want to stay. It does seem to be tactical but I can't get my head round what they are trying to achieve.

Enfield Exile wrote:

I think you are unfair on Dzeko. I think he is overrated but he is good on the floor. Not in a Peter Crouch kind of way (“Good touch for a big man..”) but he actually has a bit of pace and intelligence.

He's not fluid enough to fit in our system. You see it when Adebayor or Santa Cruz play the front man out of the three that it's the way Tevez pulls the defenders apart and creates space for the others that makes the difference. Dzeko is not mobile enough to fit the bill if we are going to stick with the formation we have and the one that the manager likes.

Re: Re: : Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:50 pm  

D.D. wrote:

He's not fluid enough to fit in our system. You see it when Adebayor or Santa Cruz play the front man out of the three that it's the way Tevez pulls the defenders apart and creates space for the others that makes the difference. Dzeko is not mobile enough to fit the bill if we are going to stick with the formation we have and the one that the manager likes.

He probably isn't. To be honest, there aren't many out there that have the combination of height, strength, pace, agility and the ability to run the channels. Off the top of my head, I could name Torres and Drogba, with a few other strikers having a few of those attributes, but maybe not all.

However, Dzeko is a class striker, whilst he could well become one of the best, problem with him is you need either a superb supporting midfielder, or a superb strike partner to go with him. I've always felt if Silva scored more, he'd be as good as Kaka and the like. I still think it, but I'm unsure if Dzeko is the type of player Silva would link well with. If Mancini could get him working harder, I'd seriously consider Benzema.

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:54 pm  

Dan_FC wrote:

I was hoping you'd pop on here and give us your thoughts. I thought you'd be quite happy as I remember you saying something recently about not being totally happy with him. Everyone seems genuinely shocked he's been sacked and I can't see why (although that's mostly the pundits/presenters off the tele), I can only think it's because for some reason they all love Allardyce, I don't see why any club with any ambition would want Allardyce in charge.

Martin Jol has been installed as favourite for the job that'd be a great appointment imo.

Eh, why not? What's wrong with Blackburn wanting to play pretty football? They've got players that can do it. Surely it should be an ambition of every club to play good football?

I've listened to a few pundits say how shocked they are since the news came out but they don't watch us for 90 minutes week in week out,the football he plays may get a team in mid table security but after a while you just want something more when you spend 30+ quid to watch the team.In over 20 years as a Rovers fan i've never been as bored as I have the last 2 years since he's been manager.It's been torture for me to watch us and can't have been much better for the fans of other teams watching us when we've been on tv.

Rovers fans are not asking for us to play like Barcelona or Arsenal all the time but I'm sick of going into every game overloaded with defensive players hoping for a set piece goal to get us a win.What I would like the new manager to do when he starts is to play 2 up front at least at home games,move Jones back to his natural position of CB next to Samba and lets play the ball out from the back instead of using Robinsons big boot all the time to set up our attacks.

In the end this could be a big mistake by the new owners if the new manager doesn't work out but sometimes you have to take a risk in the hope that better times are ahead.

[Wanderer]

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:48 pm  

Allardyce quoted this weekend as saying with the exception of Toon, where he wasn't given a chance, that he always knew when to move on .... crystal ball not working ...