Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:09 pm  

What teams do in free agency is going to be hugely influenced by the future of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

If the CBA disappears and restricted free agents become unrestricted there could be a feeding frenzy among those teams with plenty of cap space to play with in 2011, who can afford to pay over the odds in an uncapped year.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:10 pm  

the NFC West is now the worst division in all of the NFL if Warner retires.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:19 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

the NFC West is now the worst division in all of the NFL if Warner retires.

The NFC West has been the worst division in the whole of the NFL since I've been watching the sport. There's either been 1 good team or no good teams at all. For the majority of those years the team that wins the division has basically won it by default.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:25 pm  

Adamjk wrote:

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The NFC West has been the worst division in the whole of the NFL since I've been watching the sport. There's either been 1 good team or no good teams at all. For the majority of those years the team that wins the division has basically won it by default.

Probably true but i always seem to remember like you saying there being 1 good team who usually do quite well in the play-offs: Seattle and more recently Arizona. There will be no good teams at all next year if Warner is retired.

You guys will get 1-4 wins (or 16-0 if you get Clausen )
49ers are a 0.500 team until they get a good QB
Seahawks are old and injured all the time
Cardinals will be like the 49ers and if they are going with Leinart as QB, somewhere around 0.500.

I think it's realistic that 8-8 wins the West.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:27 pm  

Adamjk wrote:

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The NFC West has been the worst division in the whole of the NFL since I've been watching the sport. There's either been 1 good team or no good teams at all. For the majority of those years the team that wins the division has basically won it by default.

The division has provided teams for the NFC Championship game in four of the last eleven seasons - St Louis twice, Seattle and most recently Arizona. IIRC only the NFC East has provided more in that period.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:49 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

The division has provided teams for the NFC Championship game in four of the last eleven seasons - St Louis twice, Seattle and most recently Arizona. IIRC only the NFC East has provided more in that period.

That is quite interesting. I wonder what the record for non-divisional games for the teams would be in recent years. I've only been watching for 6 years now. St. Louis and San Francisco have rated from average to terrible during that time. Other than the last two seasons Arizona have been poor as well and even in the regular season they've been inconsistent in those 2 years, turning it on in the playoffs. Seattle obviously had a good team the year they made the Superbowl but they clearly benefitted from a weak division in the other years they won the division.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:35 pm  

I've got a feeling the Seahawks are going to spend big in free agency if it's an uncapped year.They've got a billionare owner who has got a serious illness who will want to win a superbowl soon.If I had Paul Allens money i'd be throwing money Snyder style to players to try and win some superbowl trophys.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:04 pm  

DAR130 wrote:

I've got a feeling the Seahawks are going to spend big in free agency if it's an uncapped year.They've got a billionare owner who has got a serious illness who will want to win a superbowl soon.If I had Paul Allens money i'd be throwing money Snyder style to players to try and win some superbowl trophys.

Hopefully they'll also have about as much success as the Redskins have had in recent years as well...

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:13 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

What teams do in free agency is going to be hugely influenced by the future of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

If the CBA disappears and restricted free agents become unrestricted there could be a feeding frenzy among those teams with plenty of cap space to play with in 2011, who can afford to pay over the odds in an uncapped year.

The Redskins seem to spend heavily every offseason....it seems like they do.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:46 pm  

DAR130 wrote:

I've got a feeling the Seahawks are going to spend big in free agency if it's an uncapped year.They've got a billionare owner who has got a serious illness who will want to win a superbowl soon.If I had Paul Allens money i'd be throwing money Snyder style to players to try and win some superbowl trophys.

Hopefully we get all of our playes tied up since we won't (and never do) spend big. We focus on the draft and for the most part Ted Thompson has been excellent in the draft. Justin Harrell being an example of being terrible though.

As far as i'm aware our list is pretty extensive:

Nick Collins
Atari Bigby
Tramon Williams
Ryan Pickett
Johny Jolly
Aaron Kampman

I'm pretty sure all of those are (some may be my imagination).

Collins should definately be resigned as should Williams, Jolly and the big Pickett fence.

Bigby i'm indiferent on, he puts in monster hits but he is average in coverage. Aaron Kampman is 100% commitment but Brad Jones looked good at LOLB and Kamp is wasted at OLB. He is a purely 43 DE. I'd tender and trade him if possible but i expect him to walk.

As for Seattle and FA's. Are there that many good ones out there?

Leon Washington and Jerious Norwood are IIRC. I'd love Norwood at GB. Jason Campbell at QB. There are hardly any excellent FA's this year to be fair and i think the status of FA's is affected by no CBA. You need 6 years to be an unrestricted FA rather than the current 3 so Jason Campbell would be a restricted FA, meaning a team would have to give up picks i think.