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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:05 am  
I caught quite a bit of England Wales on Saturday while I was waiting for Wigan Saints

What struck me most about the game was the total lack of invention in the backs and backline moves. Apparently they have been in camp for the past month or so and yet the only back line move they have is to pass the ball across the line until they run out of pitch – and always passing instead of squaring up the line so the defence only had to drift, it was infuriating to watch

Then you compare that to some of the slick movement of Wigan and Saints backline play. Of course the defence lies flatter in Union (at the back foot of the ruck rather than 10 metres) and there are more bodies on the pitch but a decent coach would surely get something out of these players
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:34 am  
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I caught quite a bit of England Wales on Saturday while I was waiting for Wigan Saints

What struck me most about the game was the total lack of invention in the backs and backline moves. Apparently they have been in camp for the past month or so and yet the only back line move they have is to pass the ball across the line until they run out of pitch – and always passing instead of squaring up the line so the defence only had to drift, it was infuriating to watch

Then you compare that to some of the slick movement of Wigan and Saints backline play. Of course the defence lies flatter in Union (at the back foot of the ruck rather than 10 metres) and there are more bodies on the pitch but a decent coach would surely get something out of these players

It has just about always been thus with England.
They pass the ball along the line like a hot potato, passing almost as soon as they have received it, laterally until they become embarrassed at the sideline.

Rugby league players don't do that, they hold the and ball run at the opposition, or a gap if it exists' and then pass the ball at the last minute thus taking players out of the game. They risk a clattering in the process, but they know it's the only way they will make progress short of missed tackles or poor marking.

Like you I can't stand to watch England's pathetic attempts at throwing it along the line. New Zealand can do it, they play a form of attack very akin to rugby league.
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:55 am  
And don't get me started with the feeding at the scrum - one hand into the second row!! Union fans used to have a bit of a moral high ground when talking scrums as League are a bit of a non entity but for all the ridiculous antics of Crouch, Touch, Pause, Engage (and the endless resets), if the scrum half is allowed to feed into the second row they may as well not bother
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:38 am  
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And don't get me started with the feeding at the scrum - one hand into the second row!! Union fans used to have a bit of a moral high ground when talking scrums as League are a bit of a non entity but for all the ridiculous antics of Crouch, Touch, Pause, Engage (and the endless resets), if the scrum half is allowed to feed into the second row they may as well not bother
:CLAP: A real bugbear of mine and something we were talking about last week in the pub.
Did anyone see the Scotland v Ireland game? Tepid is extremely generous. I'm getting a very bad feeling about the world cup. The northern hemisphere is light years behind the big three.
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:55 am  
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:CLAP: A real bearbug of mine and something we were talking about last week in the pub.
Did anyone see the Scotland v Ireland game? Tepid is extremely generous. I'm getting a very bad feeling about the world cup. The northern hemisphere is light years behind the big three.


I saw the second half, painful in the extreme
if it's a warm up why were they kicking goals instead of running the football? so frustrating when in the end they showed that a good passing move can result in a try
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:27 pm  
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if it's a warm up why were they kicking goals instead of running the football?

It's because they are practicing their only way of winning
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:11 pm  
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:04 pm  
Flood for me. Opinions?

"There will [always] be 58 million people in England thinking I shouldn't be in charge of the 10 shirt." - Toby putting the rugby union calculator to good use.
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:44 am  
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Flood for me. Opinions?

"There will [always] be 58 million people in England thinking I shouldn't be in charge of the 10 shirt." - Toby putting the rugby union calculator to good use.


At least 55m of those couldn't even tell you which club side Flood plays for.
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Flood for me. Opinions?

"There will [always] be 58 million people in England thinking I shouldn't be in charge of the 10 shirt." - Toby putting the rugby union calculator to good use.


At least 55m of those couldn't even tell you which club side Flood plays for.
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:31 am  
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At least 55m of those couldn't even tell you which club side Flood plays for.


I would go for 57.5 million.
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