Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:40 am  

I see Fatty stevens has made the England squad yet another non English player. They may as well be called the Baa Baa's

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:06 am  

dids858 wrote:

I see Fatty stevens has made the England squad yet another non English player. They may as well be called the Baa Baa's

I really think the foreign legion will make it to the semis but I just can't see past the big three when it comes to the winner. Predictable.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:19 am  

dids858 wrote:

I see Fatty stevens has made the England squad yet another non English player. They may as well be called the Baa Baa's

How is he not English?

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:32 am  

Thoth wrote:

How is he not English?

He's South African.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:19 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

He's South African.

That's not a barrier to being English, just ask Kevin Pietersen, Johnathan Trott, Andrew Strauss, Tony Greig, Alan Lamb, Robin Smith, Matt Prior, Craig Kieswetter, Jade Dernbach and Hendrie Fourie.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:47 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

That's not a barrier to being English, just ask Kevin Pietersen, Johnathan Trott, Andrew Strauss, Tony Greig, Alan Lamb, Robin Smith, Matt Prior, Craig Kieswetter, Jade Dernbach and Hendrie Fourie.

As we've talked about before
Embarrassing.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:05 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

He's South African.

No he has dual nationality (like millions of other people), holds a British passport (through parentage not residency) his father and grandfather are English. Received large part of his education in England, been in the UK since he was a teenager and played all his pro rugby in England. Using the same logic Shane McGowan, Rod Stewart and Iestyn Harris would be English, to a lesser extent Joanna Lumley, Nasser Hussain, Michael Owen, Colin Cowdrey are not English. Nationality is more about about than where you were born.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:19 pm  

Thoth wrote:

No he has dual nationality (like millions of other people), holds a British passport (through parentage not residency) his father and grandfather are English. Received large part of his education in England, been in the UK since he was a teenager and played all his pro rugby in England. Using the same logic Shane McGowan, Rod Stewart and Iestyn Harris would be English, to a lesser extent Joanna Lumley, Nasser Hussain, Michael Owen, Colin Cowdrey are not English. Nationality is more about about than where you were born.

Ok, he was born in South Africa. He represented South Africa. The majority of his education took place in South Africa. He's got dual nationality.
I as an Englishman am not happy with so many players that I consider to be foreign pulling in the England shirt.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:59 pm  

I see Wales outscored England 3 tries to 2 in the match today yet still lost

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:00 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

Ok, he was born in South Africa. He represented South Africa. The majority of his education took place in South Africa. He's got dual nationality.
I as an Englishman am not happy with so many players that I consider to be foreign pulling in the England shirt.

Lucky bast@rds.