: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:56 am  

Drachen Feuer wrote: Forgot about Burchill (then again, who hasnt. :lol: ) After his Pirate gimmick, it went downhill for him, that C4 was awesome, should let him use it again. Katie Lea as well, she's as british as can be. Katie was German born but grew up in London. Burchill has been on compassionate leave recently as his brother Major Sean Birchall (33), was killed on June 19 in an explosion in Afghanistan http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8111385.stm They should give Burchill more of a chance as he can be really good but they cut down his move set and didn't give him a good gimmick, for his size he can even do high flying moves but they stopped that.

Drachen Feuer wrote: Forgot about Burchill (then again, who hasnt. :lol: ) After his Pirate gimmick, it went downhill for him, that C4 was awesome, should let him use it again. Katie Lea as well, she's as british as can be. Katie was German born but grew up in London. Burchill has been on compassionate leave recently as his brother Major Sean Birchall (33), was killed on June 19 in an explosion in Afghanistan http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8111385.stm They should give Burchill more of a chance as he can be really good but they cut down his move set and didn't give him a good gimmick, for his size he can even do high flying moves but they stopped that.

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:01 am  

Steve51 wrote:

Ohh you would...you def...would.

PIC?

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:06 pm  

lister wrote: Katie was German born but grew up in London. Burchill has been on compassionate leave recently as his brother Major Sean Birchall (33), was killed on June 19 in an explosion in Afghanistan http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8111385.stm They should give Burchill more of a chance as he can be really good but they cut down his move set and didn't give him a good gimmick, for his size he can even do high flying moves but they stopped that. Really drives me nuts this about WWE. Heard they did the same with CM Punk (never saw him in ROH though so not sure to what extent) - why would they want every wrestler to wrestle the same way instead of unique, exciting stars?! Just doesn't make sense IMO. It's one of the reasons wrestlers like Rey Mysterio can only do a fraction of what he was capable of in ECW and WCW. On the subject, would anyone else like to see the return of the Cruiserweight title and pushed? Maybe on ECW to give it a different feel to Raw and SmackDown?

lister wrote: Katie was German born but grew up in London. Burchill has been on compassionate leave recently as his brother Major Sean Birchall (33), was killed on June 19 in an explosion in Afghanistan http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8111385.stm They should give Burchill more of a chance as he can be really good but they cut down his move set and didn't give him a good gimmick, for his size he can even do high flying moves but they stopped that. Really drives me nuts this about WWE. Heard they did the same with CM Punk (never saw him in ROH though so not sure to what extent) - why would they want every wrestler to wrestle the same way instead of unique, exciting stars?! Just doesn't make sense IMO. It's one of the reasons wrestlers like Rey Mysterio can only do a fraction of what he was capable of in ECW and WCW. On the subject, would anyone else like to see the return of the Cruiserweight title and pushed? Maybe on ECW to give it a different feel to Raw and SmackDown?

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:08 pm  

saintyick wrote:

PIC?

However she looks, she could never better Victoria (Tara)!

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:44 pm  

Roofs wrote:

Really drives me nuts this about WWE. :x Heard they did the same with CM Punk (never saw him in ROH though so not sure to what extent)

On the subject, would anyone else like to see the return of the Cruiserweight title and pushed? Maybe on ECW to give it a different feel to Raw and SmackDown?

Here's the moves that CM Punk doesn't do in WWE.

Anaconda Vice (Arm trap compression chokehold or an arm triangle choke)
Pepsi Plunge (Diving double underhook facebuster) - And we know why he can't use that one
Shining wizard
.45 Special (Indian deathlock surfboard)
Arm twist ropewalk leg drop
Corkscrew diving neckbreaker
Crooked Moonsault (Split–legged moonsault)
Delayed vertical suplex
Devil Lock (Armlock cloverleaf)
Devil Lock DDT (Hammerlock legsweep DDT)
Facewash
Jackie Chan (While sitting in a corner Punk grasps the top rope with one hand on each side of the turnbuckle and when the opponent attempts to pull Punk off the ropes by his legs, Punk performs a back tuck, landing on his feet)
Pepsi Twist (Jumping hammerlock twisted into a short–range lariat)
Punk–Handle Piledriver (Pumphandle reverse piledriver)
Rolling fireman's carry slam (he was allowed to turn this into the GTS however)
Springboard tornado DDT

On the Cruiserweight title, yes they should bring it back as it does allow the smaller guys or even anyone that is quick or a high flier to get used, like the X Division title does in TNA.

Those guys can usually do things that other wrestlers on the roster can't and so bring that extra level of excitement and a break from 300+ pound slow movers. With their new talent initiative on ECW they could bring in some wrestlers from around the world like ECW used to do and like TNA now does.

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:36 pm  

lister wrote:

Here's the moves that CM Punk doesn't do in WWE.

Anaconda Vice (Arm trap compression chokehold or an arm triangle choke)
Pepsi Plunge (Diving double underhook facebuster) - And we know why he can't use that one
Shining wizard
.45 Special (Indian deathlock surfboard)
Arm twist ropewalk leg drop
Corkscrew diving neckbreaker
Crooked Moonsault (Split–legged moonsault)
Delayed vertical suplex
Devil Lock (Armlock cloverleaf)
Devil Lock DDT (Hammerlock legsweep DDT)
Facewash
Jackie Chan (While sitting in a corner Punk grasps the top rope with one hand on each side of the turnbuckle and when the opponent attempts to pull Punk off the ropes by his legs, Punk performs a back tuck, landing on his feet)
Pepsi Twist (Jumping hammerlock twisted into a short–range lariat)
Punk–Handle Piledriver (Pumphandle reverse piledriver)
Rolling fireman's carry slam (he was allowed to turn this into the GTS however)
Springboard tornado DDT

On the Cruiserweight title, yes they should bring it back as it does allow the smaller guys or even anyone that is quick or a high flier to get used, like the X Division title does in TNA.

Those guys can usually do things that other wrestlers on the roster can't and so bring that extra level of excitement and a break from 300+ pound slow movers. With their new talent initiative on ECW they could bring in some wrestlers from around the world like ECW used to do and like TNA now does.

Christ that is a hell of a lot longer list then I would have imagined! (the only one I'd heard about was the top-rope Pedigree). No longer so many wrestlers get frustrated there.

Yeah it would be good on ECW, though still imagine McMahon to be obsessed with big guys - when I saw Kozlov as the face of the No Way Out DVD I just rolled my eyes.

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:03 pm  

Moves like the C4 & Canadian Destroyer will rarely be allowed in the WWE now because McMahon thinks they're dangerous and prefers a really amazing move, like Khali's chop or the Samoan Spike.

Evan Bourne had to prove about 15 times he could do a SSP properly before they let him.


Also found out that Sheamus was once Bono's bodyguard.

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:21 pm  

Drachen Feuer wrote:

Moves like the C4 & Canadian Destroyer will rarely be allowed in the WWE now because McMahon thinks they're dangerous and prefers a really amazing move, like Khali's chop or the Samoan Spike.

Evan Bourne had to prove about 15 times he could do a SSP properly before they let him.


Also found out that Sheamus was once Bono's bodyguard.

That Kozlov head-butt was surely the worst!

Evan Bourne looks a class act from what I've seen. The potential wouls be there for him to shine against other high-flyers, but hate the way over the years they've just jobbed out smaller guys to big guys, doesn't benefit anyone IMO because the fans aren't gonna be impressed just cos a big man (e.g. Show) can throw around a cruiserweight, whilst the smaller guy looks like a jobber in the process.

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:08 pm  

Drachen Feuer wrote:

Forgot about Burchill (then again, who hasnt. )
After his Pirate gimmick, it went downhill for him, that C4 was awesome, should let him use it again.

Katie Lea as well, she's as british as can be.

Burchill, Sheamus & Drew McIntyre as a british heel stable could be quite good I think.

Vince McMahon hadn't seen Pirates of the Carribean so he killed off the pirate gimmick, even though it was over, way to stay ahead of pop culture vinnie mac

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:20 pm  

Roofs wrote:

However she looks, she could never better Victoria (Tara)!

Good call.