Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 10, 2012 5:52 am  

Brum should be interesting in the Summer. IMO Hughton will go, probably to a local premier club and financially Brum have problems looming.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 10, 2012 12:32 pm  

A decent piece from the MEN.

A decent piece from the MEN.

[John_D]

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 10, 2012 12:41 pm  

Mintball wrote: A decent piece from the MEN. Comment I read on The Twitter t'other day regarding this went something like "Teams buying the league isn't the problem. It's the fact it's up for sale". Summat like that anyway

Mintball wrote: A decent piece from the MEN. Comment I read on The Twitter t'other day regarding this went something like "Teams buying the league isn't the problem. It's the fact it's up for sale". Summat like that anyway

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 10, 2012 1:05 pm  

Mintball wrote: A decent piece from the MEN. Did you have to remind me of Steve Daley?

Mintball wrote: A decent piece from the MEN. Did you have to remind me of Steve Daley?

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 10, 2012 1:09 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

Bayern are a better side on paper and on the pitch. If they don't win it, it will be the biggest upset since Istanbul/Mourinho's Porto.

I don't think so. Chelsea are one of the most successful English and European clubs of the past decade and their record during that time, both domestically and in Europe, compares very well with Bayern's. Of course, Munich start favourites but I'd hardly call it an upset given that Chelsea have knocked out Napoli (3-1 down after the first leg remember) and Barcelona in the most sensational and deserved circumstances.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 10, 2012 1:19 pm  

Mintball wrote: A decent piece from the MEN. Been saying this for months about the FFP. It's nothing other than a ruse to protect the European elite. The Champions League is pretty much a closed shop anyway and the way the FFPs are set now will ensure that it remains that way. If they were serious about FFP they'd introduce a salary cap. They're not so they won't. Also, worth pointing out that Fergie has spent on average something like £23m per season since being coach of United. I haven't worked out what the net spend is before anybody says or taken into account inflation on any of the figures. Just thought it was interesting, although most true United fans accept that's part of the modern game and don't deceive themselves that they are somehow celebrating success that's been morally more pure. John_D wrote: Comment I read on The Twitter t'other day regarding this went something like "Teams buying the league isn't the problem. It's the fact it's up for sale". Which begs the question as to when hasn't it been? RL has been up for sale ever since we went professional. It was the reason why we split from union so I have to assume that football's professional origins come from similar areas of motivation i.e. the desire to put a winning team together.

Mintball wrote: A decent piece from the MEN. Been saying this for months about the FFP. It's nothing other than a ruse to protect the European elite. The Champions League is pretty much a closed shop anyway and the way the FFPs are set now will ensure that it remains that way. If they were serious about FFP they'd introduce a salary cap. They're not so they won't. Also, worth pointing out that Fergie has spent on average something like £23m per season since being coach of United. I haven't worked out what the net spend is before anybody says or taken into account inflation on any of the figures. Just thought it was interesting, although most true United fans accept that's part of the modern game and don't deceive themselves that they are somehow celebrating success that's been morally more pure. John_D wrote: Comment I read on The Twitter t'other day regarding this went something like "Teams buying the league isn't the problem. It's the fact it's up for sale". Which begs the question as to when hasn't it been? RL has been up for sale ever since we went professional. It was the reason why we split from union so I have to assume that football's professional origins come from similar areas of motivation i.e. the desire to put a winning team together.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 10, 2012 1:59 pm  

McClennan wrote:

Also, worth pointing out that Fergie has spent on average something like £23m per season since being coach of United.

With a rather decent return, trophy-wise.

McClennan wrote:

RL has been up for sale ever since we went professional. It was the reason why we split from union.

Are you sure about that?

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 10, 2012 2:25 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

£50 to a steward. Or the steward let them in for free because he was in on the protest.

I can't have any sympathy for Blackburn fans TBH. They wanted rid of Fat Sam, simply because he was ex-Bolton. And they are so utterly stupid they use a relegation decider as a time to put up their biggest protests against the manager. They must be the most retarded supporters in the world. You get behind your team for the 90 minutes and save your protests for after the game.

You and the other posters complaining about the Rovers fans should read up a bit more about how the club has been run and managed the last 18 months before posting your outrage.I'm just suprised it took until the last home game before the whole ground showed what they think about Venkys and Kean.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 10, 2012 3:16 pm  

McClennan wrote:

Been saying this for months about the FFP. It's nothing other than a ruse to protect the European elite. The Champions League is pretty much a closed shop anyway and the way the FFPs are set now will ensure that it remains that way. If they were serious about FFP they'd introduce a salary cap. They're not so they won't. Also, worth pointing out that Fergie has spent on average something like £23m per season since being coach of United. I haven't worked out what the net spend is before anybody says or taken into account inflation on any of the figures. Just thought it was interesting, although most true United fans accept that's part of the modern game and don't deceive themselves that they are somehow celebrating success that's been morally more pure.

Not suggesting its more pure, if City win it, City deserve it.

I think what does irritate some United fans is the fact is some city fans saying City are just doing what United always have, whilst United have spent plenty (but seldom been top payers even domestically), both under the Edwards family and then as a PLC they were spending money they had actually made. Obviously being a PLC made the club vulnerable to the likes of the Glazers. So obviously it is possible to make a distinction between spending lots of money you have made as a football club / 'brand', and making a loss of £197m (from purely throwing money at something as opposed to Glazer induced debt), whether there is any validity in that argument is another matter as football ownership now is as it is

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 10, 2012 5:13 pm  

DAR130 wrote:

You and the other posters complaining about the Rovers fans should read up a bit more about how the club has been run and managed the last 18 months before posting your outrage.I'm just suprised it took until the last home game before the whole ground showed what they think about Venkys and Kean.

Given that it had taken you so long to make that demonstration, surely you should have had the sense to save it until after the game? During the game your focus should have been on supporting your team and making it uncomfortable for Wigan. Instead you made it uncomfortable for your team and manager.

I can totally understand why BR fans are so peed at what has happened at your club. But the time for vitriol was after you were relegated, or even better, after you secured your PL place.