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Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. Sun May 23, 2021 5:46 pm  

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Last year I was very much of the opinion that if we won the Grand Final he should stay on and I agreed with him staying on even losing it because of the manner of it and how we lifted at the back end of the season. This season is different for me. I’d replace him even if we did win it (which we won’t) unless we win it and in the process between now and then we actually start to look like a team that trains together in the week and plays this sparkling, attacking rugby he speaks of on a consistent basis.

The point people make about the crowds is a good one. Nobody other than diehards will be rushing out buy a ticket to watch what is on offer.


I’ll be going when we’re back at the DW. I want to take my lad to his first game now he’s just about old enough, but I won’t be going for the entertainment value. Just to ensure his loyalties are in the right place.

I still think the first game back will, and should, be packed to the rafters (as restrictions allow) and the first game back post restrictions should be also, further on from that and we’ll drop to the old crowd levels, if not less. You only have to look at social media to see that the fans disgruntlement isn’t limited to this forum.
Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. Sun May 23, 2021 5:54 pm  

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I’ll be going when we’re back at the DW. I want to take my lad to his first game now he’s just about old enough, but I won’t be going for the entertainment value. Just to ensure his loyalties are in the right place.

I still think the first game back will, and should, be packed to the rafters (as restrictions allow) and the first game back post restrictions should be also, further on from that and we’ll drop to the old crowd levels, if not less. You only have to look at social media to see that the fans disgruntlement isn’t limited to this forum.


I don’t think crowds will get back to pre pandemic levels for a long time sadly. I think people will have got out of the habit and when you add in the fact that a fair amount of people will still be pretty cautious about going in to areas packed with people.

The rugby on offer needs to be good to tempt as many people back as quickly as possible. What we’re dishing up at the moment won’t get any casual fans off the sofa or out of the pub. I loved being back at the game yesterday but the rugby on offer did it’s best to dampen the enthusiasm.
Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. Sun May 23, 2021 5:57 pm  

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100% Warrior wrote:
I’ll be going when we’re back at the DW. I want to take my lad to his first game now he’s just about old enough, but I won’t be going for the entertainment value. Just to ensure his loyalties are in the right place.

I still think the first game back will, and should, be packed to the rafters (as restrictions allow) and the first game back post restrictions should be also, further on from that and we’ll drop to the old crowd levels, if not less. You only have to look at social media to see that the fans disgruntlement isn’t limited to this forum.

I really don’t see a grand rush to the turnstiles for the return to the DW,going to the match is a habit and once it’s broken it’s a hard one to get back in my humble opinion and let’s be fair pre pandemic they where hardly ever hanging the house full signs out even for the good Friday game
Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. Sun May 23, 2021 6:15 pm  
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Funnily enough, I know quite a few people who's interest in Wigan & RL has grown over the pandemic. That's simply because it's been easier than ever to view every game on TV.

I'm also pretty confident that these people won't be rushing to the DW. They were casual fans that might have previously looked out for results and watched a few games on Sky, but they won't ever turn into "live" fans. They were however disappointed when the games switched back to different venues & on the our league app. All that will now happen is those fans will be lost to the club again.

Times have been changing for a while with crowds decreasing, whilst alternative choices becoming more abundant. The pandemic might be the final nail in the coffin and one that forces change (whether it is wanted by clubs or not).
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Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. Sun May 23, 2021 7:34 pm  

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To be fair I accept both valid points from NK and hengirl and I’ve just seen our first games back at home and when;

18/06 - KR
30/06 - Wire (On a Wednesday??!!)

So in summary; you’re both probably right.
Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. Sun May 23, 2021 7:48 pm  

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Not sure why we’re having to wait till 18th June for a home game when others have had two already? I presume it’s our request as maybe work is getting done on the pitch. The only other thing I can’t think of is that the club want the chance of having bigger crowds comes then but that would be a dangerous tactic, given the easing of restrictions could always be put back.
Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. Sun May 23, 2021 8:14 pm  

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People can talk about 7 from 7 all they want... but we are 0 from 1 in must win games this season.

Lam is 0 from 5 in the search for a trophy.

We’ll get found out soon enough.
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Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. Sun May 23, 2021 9:14 pm  

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I imagine that the delayed return for home games is down to the pitch having it's yearly maintenance
Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. Sun May 23, 2021 10:11 pm  

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I remember, what, about a year ago on this forum someone reckoned we'd be so pleased to watch live sport that there'd be 15000 at the DW when crowds were allowed back. I thought that was crazy talk then, and I still do.
Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. Sun May 23, 2021 10:13 pm  

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I don't get why Lam is so desperate for Joe Shorrocks to play every game? One of the most average players we've brought through in recent times. Defending in the centre position he was out of place a few times as well and thankfully covered by Smith and Manfredi on a couple of occasions.

Said this the other day but against Leigh he made ONE carry in his 30+ minutes. Lam's reaction? Play him at centre... unbelievable!

I do not have a down on Shorrocks. I think that he is a good young player who will make his future in the game. I see him a bit like Greg Burke though. He is a solid defending, ball playing forward who could add something different to an attack. Unfortunately he is being used as one of our clone middles or as a speculative centre.
For years now we have been in the position of throwing too many youngsters in at the same time because our senior players have not been up to the job.
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