Team Next Week/Jai Field Injury : Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:26 am  

Field is out for 6 weeks apparently. Do we have anyone returning other than Hastings? Presume French will sit out a week? Assuming so and we can't or won't recall Hankinson then I'd go:

FB 3 Hardaker
RW 22 Bibby
RC 11 Isa
LC 13 Bateman
LW 28 Halsall
SO 20 Smith
SH 31 Hastings
P 8 Singleton
H 9 Powell
P 10 Bullock
SR 15 Smithies
SR 12 Farrell
LF 14 Partington

S 7 Leuluai
S 19 Byrne
S 21 Havard
S 25 Shorrocks

Looking ugly in the backs. I'll get some flak for wanting to drop Hanley but he's making too many errors deep in our own half. Those things lose you games. Get him out of the firing line and on loan to a Championship team to get him some experience playing against men once our injuries ease up.

Re: Team Next Week/Jai Field Injury : Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:32 am  

Grimmy wrote:

Out for 6 weeks apparently. Do we have anyone returning other than Hastings? Presume French will sit out a week? Assuming so and we can't or won't recall Hankinson then I'd go:

FB 3 Hardaker
RW 22 Bibby
RC 11 Isa
LC 13 Bateman
LW 28 Halsall
SO 20 Smith
SH 31 Hastings
P 8 Singleton
H 9 Powell
P 10 Bullock
SR 15 Smithies
SR 12 Farrell
LF 14 Partington

S 7 Leuluai
S 19 Byrne
S 21 Havard
S 25 Shorrocks

Looking ugly in the backs. I'll get some flak for wanting to drop Hanley but he's making too many errors deep in our own half. Those things lose you games. Get him out of the firing line and on loan to a Championship team to get him some experience playing against men once our injuries ease up.

I backed Hanley after Saints because he was bombarded by a team with as one sided territorial advantage as you’ll see. I thought he started great last night, he got the couple of early confidence boosting catches you’d hope for but it went downhill a bit from there and unlike the Saints game a couple of the errors were poor and he looked loose in possession. It’s a tough gig for him and I’d probably keep him in but you could understand them looking at Halsall. It may well be the time to call Hankinson back but that doesn’t look likely.

Re: Team Next Week/Jai Field Injury : Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:45 am  

Grimmy wrote:

Field is out for 6 weeks apparently. Do we have anyone returning other than Hastings? Presume French will sit out a week? Assuming so and we can't or won't recall Hankinson then I'd go:

FB 3 Hardaker
RW 22 Bibby
RC 11 Isa
LC 13 Bateman
LW 28 Halsall
SO 20 Smith
SH 31 Hastings
P 8 Singleton
H 9 Powell
P 10 Bullock
SR 15 Smithies
SR 12 Farrell
LF 14 Partington

S 7 Leuluai
S 19 Byrne
S 21 Havard
S 25 Shorrocks

Looking ugly in the backs. I'll get some flak for wanting to drop Hanley but he's making too many errors deep in our own half. Those things lose you games. Get him out of the firing line and on loan to a Championship team to get him some experience playing against men once our injuries ease up.

I thought Hanley went well considering they went after him all night, he gopt very little support

Re: Team Next Week/Jai Field Injury : Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:50 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

I backed Hanley after Saints because he was bombarded by a team with as one sided territorial advantage as you’ll see. I thought he started great last night, he got the couple of early confidence boosting catches you’d hope for but it went downhill a bit from there and unlike the Saints game a couple of the errors were poor and he looked loose in possession. It’s a tough gig for him and I’d probably keep him in but you could understand them looking at Halsall. It may well be the time to call Hankinson back but that doesn’t look likely.

Yeah I was buzzing at the start when he could those couple of early kicks and thought about what you had said in the week about him maybe gaining confidence from a couple of good early touches, but then after that we get the knock on and the incorrect play the ball deep in our own half, at least twice he was totally beaten in the air for what could/should have been Leigh tries too. It the errors were at the other end of the pitch I'd say leave him in but they're going to start costing us points and games, which could wreck his confidence a lot more than getting sent out on loan would. Surely we have to recall Hankinson now if we have the option.

Re: Team Next Week/Jai Field Injury : Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:51 am  

Grimmy wrote:

Yeah I was buzzing at the start when he could those couple of early kicks and thought about what you had said in the week about him maybe gaining confidence from a couple of good early touches, but then after that we get the knock on and the incorrect play the ball deep in our own half, at least twice he was totally beaten in the air for what could/should have been Leigh tries too. It the errors were at the other end of the pitch I'd say leave him in but they're going to start costing us points and games, which could wreck his confidence a lot more than getting sent out on loan would. Surely we have to recall Hankinson now if we have the option.

so we drop bateman next week as he had far more mistakes and gave away stupid penalties? It wasnt an incorrect play the ball the Leigh player was in the way, I know the rule changed last year but that should have been play on or a penalty against Leigh, we cant improve his confidence by dropping him for making mistakes when other players arent for making similar if not more

Re: Team Next Week/Jai Field Injury : Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:52 am  

Biggest way Hanley will build confidence will be when he gets some opportunities to attack properly. How many times did he get the ball last night with a bit of space?

Re: Team Next Week/Jai Field Injury : Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:10 am  

Pieman wrote:

so we drop bateman next week as he had far more mistakes and gave away stupid penalties? It wasnt an incorrect play the ball the Leigh player was in the way, I know the rule changed last year but that should have been play on or a penalty against Leigh, we cant improve his confidence by dropping him for making mistakes when other players arent for making similar if not more

It was an incorrect ptb, you can't step over the man anymore, you have to step back if necessary. You're right that 3 years ago it would have been a Wigan penalty. I wouldn't kill him for that but add it to the unforced knock on in our own 20 and being beaten in the air at least twice for bombed Leigh tries and it's extremely lucky he didn't cost us the game. I'm bothered about his confidence but I'm a lot more bothered about the win to be honest. Players have been taken out of the firing line, gone out on loan then ended up having good careers with us. Goulding and J.Tomkins are a couple I can think of.

Re: Team Next Week/Jai Field Injury : Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:16 am  

Pieman wrote:

I thought Hanley went well considering they went after him all night, he gopt very little support

I agree, apart from that dropped ball at the ptb I thought he did ok.

Re: Team Next Week/Jai Field Injury : Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:18 am  

Grimmy wrote:

It was an incorrect ptb, you can't step over the man anymore, you have to step back if necessary. You're right that 3 years ago it would have been a Wigan penalty. I wouldn't kill him for that but add it to the unforced knock on in our own 20 and being beaten in the air at least twice for bombed Leigh tries and it's extremely lucky he didn't cost us the game. I'm bothered about his confidence but I'm a lot more bothered about the win to be honest.

So bateman gave away a daft penalties and had more knock ons and missed tackles, if we more bothered about the win do we drop him?

Re: Team Next Week/Jai Field Injury : Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:28 am  

Pieman wrote:

So bateman gave away a daft penalties and had more knock ons and missed tackles, if we more bothered about the win do we drop him?

we have seen Bateman perform brilliantly at SL and NRL level. Hanley has had two SL games with six or so critical errors between them. I don't want to turn it into a bashing session against him because he may well bounce back and I hope he does. We just can't keep giving the opposition extra sets on our line or not contesting their kicks to the corner.

Edit - gave you the benefit of the doubt with Bateman but I've seen the stats now. 5 errors for Hanley (8 between his two games), 2 for Bateman.