Re: : Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:12 pm  

Pieman2010 wrote:

I quite like King, big, strong, tall, fast clever centre. Prefect for replacing Georgy

I'd love for the rumour about Carmont staying to be true(which I can't see tbh) and King to be replacing Hoffman in the squad. That would allow Joel Tomkins to move back into the pack taking Hoffmans place and then King could play centre(or wing with Charnley at centre).

FWIW though I don't see Carmont or King at Wigan next season.

: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:17 pm  

[quote="NickyKiss"]"Pieman2010" wrote: I quite like King, big, strong, tall, fast clever centre. Prefect for replacing Georgy


I'd love for the rumour about Carmont staying to be true(which I can't see tbh) and King to be replacing Hoffman in the squad. That would allow Joel Tomkins to move back into the pack taking Hoffmans place and then King could play centre(or wing with Charnley at centre).

FWIW though I don't see Carmont or King at Wigan next season.[/quote]

Nor do I see Matt Bowen or Brett Kearney

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:18 pm  

We do need a world class centre tho.

Joel for me is the only guy we should replace Hoffman with.

Re: : Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:21 pm  

Pieman2010 wrote:

Nor do I see Matt Bowen or Brett Kearney

It will be interesting to see what positions the club do feel needs strengthening as alot of questions will be anweared by who we go for.

Do we see Sam as a long term fullback?

Do we see Joel as a long term Centre?

Do we see Tommy Leuluai as a Hooker?

Where will Hock play?

And also will Deacon, Carmont and Coley play on?

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:37 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

I think Wigan offered him a more attractive deal than we did. He's struggling for offers back home.

If we signed Matt King on the right contract (not too long and at a reasonable wage) as a replacement for Martin Gleeson and George Carmont was to re-sign for another year then I would be very pleased.

Matt King didn't live up the hype in his first few seasons, but was still a decent player. However his form in 2010 was excellent and he made the Dream Team too IIRC. Out of all the OOC Super League centres he is the best option without a shadow of a doubt. He's perfectly adept on the wing too, which provides us with options when giving Josh Charnley, Darrell Goulding, Stefan Marsh etc games. I can't work out whether Joel Tomkins will make it as a centre. His acceleration just doesn't cut it and is getting throw into touch too many times. With time I think he could do a reputable job as a Super League centre (never an international centre) but with Hoffman's likely departure from the pack (plus Andy Coley) then it does leave us short in the back row. So it makes sense in terms of the balance of the squad.

Let's face it we need a centre. Matt King is the best of the OOC players available and on the right contract (length + wage) I wouldn't be adverse to signing him. However I'm not convinced at all that he will end up at Wigan next season. I'm sure he has openly stated he would never lineup against Warrington.

But next season with Matt King in the side, Gareth Hock returning and the possibility of George Carmont re-signing I would be thrilled. I'd only look to move in a new halfback to partner Finch.

Sam Tomkins
Josh Charnley
Matt King
George Carmont
Pat Richards
Joe Mellor - New signing?
Brett Finch
Stuart Fielden
Thomas Leuluai
Lee Mossop
Joel Tomkins
Harrison Hansen
Sean O'loughlin

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Paul Prescott
Jeff Lima
Gareth Hock
Mike McIlorum

Amos Roberts, Darrell Goulding, Stefan Marsh, Ryan King, Matty Russell, Sam Powell, Logan Tomkins, Eamon O'carroll, Chris Tuson, Liam Farrell, Ben Davies, Dom Crosby etc

Very strong if you ask me.

Re: Re: : Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:43 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

It will be interesting to see what positions the club do feel needs strengthening as alot of questions will be anweared by who we go for.

Do we see Sam as a long term fullback?
Yes
Do we see Joel as a long term Centre?
No - ideally we'd like to recruit another centre and move Joel to the pack.
Do we see Tommy Leuluai as a Hooker?
Yes IMO. Joe Mellor to be promoted at halfback soon.

Where will Hock play?
Second row for now. Prop depending on injuries/the squad.

And also will Deacon, Carmont and Coley play on?
Deacon - No.
Coley - No.
Carmont - rumoured yes!

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:53 pm  

If I answeared my own questions I think i'd say-

Sam will stay at fullback

Joel Will stay at Centre

Tommy won't go fulltime to hooker and will continue to play both 7 and 9

Hock will be backrow to replace Hoffman

and Carmont and Coley will retire but Deacon will sign for another year.

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:41 pm  

cadoo wrote:

Snip.

A very fair and evaluated post. The reason he's looking around is he is struggling to find offers back home in the NRL. Lets face it, they have a plethora of young talented outside backs there and there isn't necessarily going to be a demand for him. If Warrington aren't prepared to offer him the contract he needs then his career and well being will come before his pride.

I know if I was in King's position and there was a better contract offered at Wigan, bearing in mind Warrington may not have offered him a contract at all, then I know what I would do..

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:01 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

If you care to dig up them rumours you'll see I said Puletua will sign a 2 year deal at Saints, I also stated Laffrinchi had signed about 2 weeks before it was announced.

My sources are reliable, I have no reason to believe otherwise. You can believe whatever you like. King was also in talks with us.

But are your sources better than mine ?

Re: : Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:05 pm  

Pieman2010 wrote:

I quite like King, big, strong, tall, fast clever centre. Prefect for replacing Georgy

I think king is winger who does a ok job in the centre. He's not a clever centre and doesn't know when to give or go.

IMO he's a very very good winger and top quality finisher and would go very well for you lot on the wing.