Re: HKR (h) : Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:51 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

I noticed that but I wouldn’t be hugely worried. I again go back to how they defend. It’s all about pressure and people getting off the line and it leads to plenty of missed tackles across the board but if the first man doesn’t get you, the second does. The Saints side has the best defence in the league by a mile, with them conceding nearly 100 points less than the next best and nearly 170 points less than us. Guys like Knowles and Batchelor play a massive part in that regardless of what the missed tackles column says.

However they are also in the top three for penalties conceded, that would be a major concern against the "big" teams?

Also Batchelor is nowhere near the amount of tackles made or metres made than those of Farrell

Re: HKR (h) : Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:24 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

However they are also in the top three for penalties conceded, that would be a major concern against the "big" teams?

Also Batchelor is nowhere near the amount of tackles made or metres made than those of Farrell

One reason why Faz is a better allround player than than either of those players.

Re: HKR (h) : Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:53 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

However they are also in the top three for penalties conceded, that would be a major concern against the "big" teams?

Also Batchelor is nowhere near the amount of tackles made or metres made than those of Farrell

I’d have Faz all day long anyway (as long as he’s used correctly). Batchelor is having a really good season but could you imagine Faz in that Saints side, feeding off the back of the physical stress they put other teams through? He would have a field day with his fitness levels and eye for a gap.

I do think the missed tackles and penalty stats for Saints forwards are a bi-product of the way in which they defend. It’s totally different to how we go about things. It’s if they’ll be able to adjust to how Wane will set things up that will decide if Batchelor and Knowles can make a big impact in the World Cup (if Batchelor makes the squad because I don’t think it’s a given).

Re: HKR (h) : Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:36 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I’d have Faz all day long anyway (as long as he’s used correctly). Batchelor is having a really good season but could you imagine Faz in that Saints side, feeding off the back of the physical stress they put other teams through? He would have a field day with his fitness levels and eye for a gap.

I do think the missed tackles and penalty stats for Saints forwards are a bi-product of the way in which they defend. It’s totally different to how we go about things. It’s if they’ll be able to adjust to how Wane will set things up that will decide if Batchelor and Knowles can make a big impact in the World Cup (if Batchelor makes the squad because I don’t think it’s a given).

I would be surprised if he does. He is a workmanlike forward but he is not an international player.

Re: HKR (h) : Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:43 pm  

Doesn’t sound like the missed tackles Colin will be getting a rest today. Mad scoreline so far.

Re: HKR (h) : Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:02 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Doesn’t sound like the missed tackles Colin will be getting a rest today. Mad scoreline so far.

Seems to be a common occurrence for the intensity to drop off a cliff this time of the year, particularly for the clubs who know they'll be in the playoffs and have their position virtually secured.

Re: HKR (h) : Mon Aug 01, 2022 2:55 pm  

No ban for Harry Smith, so it’ll now be interesting to see if Cust goes in to 9 or we play a total makeshift player there, such as Shorrocks in the next game.

Re: HKR (h) : Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:17 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

No ban for Harry Smith, so it’ll now be interesting to see if Cust goes in to 9 or we play a total makeshift player there, such as Shorrocks in the next game.

O'Neill contesting his ban the incident is on twitter he was running behind the ref and the ref backed into him does not deserve a ban .

Re: HKR (h) : Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:47 pm  

jaws1 wrote:

O'Neill contesting his ban the incident is on twitter he was running behind the ref and the ref backed into him does not deserve a ban .

I saw that earlier and whilst it is ridiculous, it won’t get downgraded IMO. I’ve seen even more trivial ones get a ban. It’s the fact O’Neill raises his arms and gives him a little shove that will do for him. Hope I’m wrong mind.

Re: HKR (h) : Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:37 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

No ban for Harry Smith, so it’ll now be interesting to see if Cust goes in to 9 or we play a total makeshift player there, such as Shorrocks in the next game.

Joke of a ban.

Cust has played a lot of 9 in his career and he should move there IMO. Shorrocks on the bench just in case

1 French
2 Miski

6 Field
7 Smith

9 Cust

14 Shorrocks